From owner-cvs-all Wed Nov 13 12:46:36 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9D137B404; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:46:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.86.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6203243E88; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 12:46:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gADKkAOr099495; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:46:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Anders Nordby Cc: "David O'Brien" , Robert Watson , Doug Rabson , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/etc inetd.conf src/libexec Makefile In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:33:30 +0100." <20021113203330.GB19140@totem.fix.no> Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 21:46:10 +0100 Message-ID: <99494.1037220370@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20021113203330.GB19140@totem.fix.no>, Anders Nordby writes: >Hello, > >On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 12:19:11PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: >> Heck, I'd like to propose to the TRB to remove PAM from the base system. >> No one I talk to has found any use for it, and it hasn't provided any >> functionality that I know of that we did not have before we brought in >> PAM. While we are all aware of the constaint pain it gives users. > >As maintainer of a few PAM ports (mod_auth_pam, pam-mysql), I beg to >differ. I regularly talk to and help users to implement PAM >application-wise. I also use PAM a lot myself for external >authentication methods. I think many people appreciate PAM being there. > >Remove PAM, and I would need to consider another OS.. I know I've been under a rock for much of the summer, so I might have missed this already, but I guess what we really need here is a good article or paper which shows some of the nifty things you can do with PAM. A long time ago a random group of people at a BSDcon came up with the notion of a series of "blue-print" articles which would provide a comprehensive tutorial to new key-features in FreeBSD. I guess we all promptly hid from the editor of daemon-news when he tried to collect text from us, but maybe it is time to revive that idea ? -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message