From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Mar 4 9:31:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C740F37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:31:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E949943F85 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 09:31:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (orb_rules@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24HVGxN001503; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:31:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h24HVFcp001502; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:31:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:31:15 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Cliff Sarginson Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kent Stewart , Roger Merritt Subject: Re: Portupgrade -- revisited Message-ID: <20030304173115.GA1359@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <5.2.0.9.0.20030303115100.00a245c0@127.0.0.1> <200303031942.02216.kstewart@owt.com> <20030304081640.GB4319@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <200303040045.19594.kstewart@owt.com> <20030304090008.GC4319@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20030304160644.GA447@willow.raggedclown.intra> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030304160644.GA447@willow.raggedclown.intra> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 05:06:44PM +0100, Cliff Sarginson wrote: > On Tue, Mar 04, 2003 at 10:00:08AM +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > >=20 > > Hope this helps to clear up some of the confusion. > >=20 > > --Stijn >=20 > Oh Mr Stijn. Listen, I am not tellimg you off, or making fun of you..Ok ? > I promise. But my eyes crossed, went sidewyas, took a holiday, crawled > across the floor looking for somewhere else to be. What part did you not understand? I'll try and reword it for you. Hopefully things can become clear then. > Years and years ago I wrote a caculator program for DOS, using a > recursive state-machine model and allowing infinite precision, kind of > like "bc"..or is it "dc" ? > Quite necessary at the time to deal with the Dutch Tax System. What does that have to do with portupgrade? If you're trying to convey the height of your programming skills, you've succeeded -- I've never done the above, and probably never will. My intere= sts lie elsewhere. To each his own. I am not making fun of you either -- portupgrades *can* go wrong in many subtle ways. However I enjoy finding out what exactly went wrong, and try to fix things in the process. Even better if I can find where portupgrade got things wrong, so that I can report them to the author. Note that I'm still a convinced portupgrade user. Kent's story led me to fi= nd out why portupgrade did what it did, and it cautioned me to again look more closely at what exactly happened after my portupgrade runs. And like I said= , I succesfully used portupgrade to survive X, mozilla and gnumeric upgrades. That's why I'm still convinced that there's something on your system that prevents you from portupgrading KDE. However you don't seem interested in fixing this anymore; not my loss. > Portupgrade has too many ways it can go wrong for mere mortals. > I have offered to re-write it. > It will be a mega-project, but my offer is serious. That would be great. More alternatives is always better. Maybe you will also encounter a lot of the difficulties of automatic dependencies and the like. Maybe you can even make it part of the base system, or at least of the ports system. Regards, --Stijn --=20 Remember, kids: "Q" is always followed by "U". You can learn more on the Internet in the Spelling FAQU. -- James "Kibo" Parry --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+ZOLjY3r/tLQmfWcRAi9hAKCRcqUFAFhmYt3s57IBuhdWlktD/QCfeE5o U1q81hhLUU1ZgiYEACXWtDE= =hrtj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message