From owner-svn-src-head@freebsd.org Fri Jan 17 00:03:44 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C67351FA7E4; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 00:03:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from zxy.spb.ru (zxy.spb.ru [195.70.199.98]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47zLrH5yYHz3K3T; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 00:03:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from slw@zxy.spb.ru) Received: from slw by zxy.spb.ru with local (Exim 4.86 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1isF6s-000OGr-8T; Fri, 17 Jan 2020 03:03:34 +0300 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 03:03:34 +0300 From: Slawa Olhovchenkov To: Eugene Grosbein Cc: Ed Maste , "src-committers@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , Oliver Pinter , Nathan Whitehorn , Ben Woods , "svn-src-head@freebsd.org" , Warner Losh Subject: Re: svn commit: r356758 - in head/usr.sbin/bsdinstall: . scripts Message-ID: <20200117000333.GI38096@zxy.spb.ru> References: <202001150747.00F7lqiG071097@repo.freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: slw@zxy.spb.ru X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on zxy.spb.ru); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47zLrH5yYHz3K3T X-Spamd-Bar: ++++ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of slw@zxy.spb.ru has no SPF policy when checking 195.70.199.98) smtp.mailfrom=slw@zxy.spb.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [4.17 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[zxy.spb.ru]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.70)[0.695,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.09)[asn: 5495(0.42), country: RU(0.01)]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.99)[0.986,0]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[9]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5495, ipnet:195.70.192.0/19, country:RU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 00:03:44 -0000 On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 02:43:37PM +0700, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > 16.01.2020 4:41, Ed Maste wrote: > > > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 16:10, Eugene Grosbein wrote: > >> > >> There are multiple scenarios there ZFS may be sub-optimal at least: small i386 virtual guests > >> or 32-bit only hardware like AMD Geode, or big amd64 SSD-only systems with bhyve and multiple guests > >> that need lots of memory and should not fight with ZFS for RAM etc. > > > > That may well be the case, but our defaults should represent the > > configuration that's desirable to the largest set of users, and IMO > > that's ZFS in most cases today. > > > > It might be that we should default to UFS on i386 and ZFS on amd64? > > UFS may be better for any virtual guest having RAM less or equal to 4GB. Why?