From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 14 16:26:32 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70F106568C for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steve@ibctech.ca) Received: from smtp.ibctech.ca (v6.ibctech.ca [IPv6:2607:f118::b6]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7526C8FC59 for ; Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 14702 invoked by uid 89); 14 Aug 2009 16:26:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?IPv6:2607:f118::5?) (steve@ibctech.ca@2607:f118::5) by 2607:f118::b6 with ESMTPA; 14 Aug 2009 16:26:35 -0000 Message-ID: <4A85903C.80007@ibctech.ca> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 12:26:36 -0400 From: Steve Bertrand User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason Garrett References: <1323617427.513901249318108621.JavaMail.root@mail-01.cse.ucsc.edu> <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <970380130908041405x3064f4fet84205e078245f67d@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; micalg=sha1; boundary="------------ms030402030401090709030109" Cc: Tim Gustafson , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ZFS Boot Support from Installer X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:32 -0000 This is a cryptographically signed message in MIME format. --------------ms030402030401090709030109 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jason Garrett wrote: > On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 11:48, Tim Gustafson wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I was wondering if there was a plan or time line in place to support ZFS >> boot partitions in the installer. I Googled around a bit and found some >> how-to documents for setting it up in a hacky kind of way, but the >> impression I got is that support for ZFS partitions is coming to the >> installer in perhaps 7.3 or 8.0, and I wanted to confirm or dispel that myth >> before I go forward using the hacky method. > > > I wouldn't recommend using zfs at all right now, unless you want random > crashes and lots of missing data.. ESPECIALLY in 8.0,1,2 versions. Do you have significant, long-term experience with "random crashes and lots of missing data"? I have nothing but good things to say about ZFS. I've been using it since 7.0, and one box in particular is put under extreme duress doing network backups daily. Since originally tuned, it has been just as stable as any other box we own. This particular box is configured as Tim's is in another post he wrote (7.2, RAIDZ, boot from UFS flash), and writes at ~160MBps for 6-8 consecutive hours per day. What I would recommend is if you go with -CURRENT and boot from ZFS on a box going into production, ensure that you have very up-to-date backups, stored in a method in which you could very quickly replicate onto another box in case of emergency. 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