From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Nov 22 5:16:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from spammie.svbug.com (mg134-015.ricochet.net [204.179.134.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FCAC37B4CF; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from spammie.svbug.com (localhost.mozie.org [127.0.0.1]) by spammie.svbug.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA00484; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:16:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jessem@spammie.svbug.com) Message-Id: <200011221316.FAA00484@spammie.svbug.com> Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 05:16:02 -0800 (PST) From: opentrax@email.com Reply-To: opentrax@email.com Subject: Re: Dedicated disks (was: Dangerously Dedicated) To: jhb@FreeBSD.org Cc: msmith@FreeBSD.org, chat@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21 Nov, John Baldwin wrote: > >> I can see many people are passionate about this topic. So, spelling out >> the issues and facts might help remedy this difficult situtation. >> Per your comment, about spending "some time thinking about all the..", >> I've assumed as much. I'm not considerig your opinion in this matter >> any more _or_ less than anyones. (That includes Mr. Smith). > > The only problem is that the issues _have_ been discussed in excruciating > detail many times. I suggest you make use of the mail archives. > Mr. Smith, if the issues have been hashed out as you say, the perhaps a document can be pointed that outlines these issue clearly. Your suggestion, while a fine one, has un-seen harm of people associating (harsh) discussion on the matter, rather than seeing the bluk of the matter. I've stated my opinion, that does not lessen yours. Could I expect that you might be able outline yours points in an enumerate list or bulletize format? >> alternatives, most we don't like. Yes, we can run a "booteasy" >> style booter to help certain issues. However, we don't sell to >> newbies and our systems are run by professionals. >> >> With that consideration, wouldn't it make good sense to use DD? > > Considering that some SCSI BIOS's crash during boot (even if they _aren't_ the > boot disk) if you use DD, no. We shouldn't be blowing users feet off for them > quite so badly. People should not use DD mode unless their machine will not > boot without it. It is not safe with respect to various BIOS's and other 3rd > party utilities. > I see your points. Could I ask about more facts relating to this? And if so, and those facts happen to be in the mailing list, I would be happy to present your facts and arguements on www.svbug.com. As such, other people could add facts - as they see them. Do you consider this method to be of benefit to your points? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message