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Date:      Sat, 2 Sep 1995 06:55:18 -0700 (PDT)
From:      "Rodney W. Grimes" <rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
To:        pete@RockyMountain.rahul.net (Pete Delaney)
Cc:        pete@kesa26.kesa.com, jbryant@argus.iadfw.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, pete@rahul.net
Subject:   Re: 4GB Drives - Another Hawk bits the dust after a a short 3 month flight; Loading NetBSD !
Message-ID:  <199509021355.GAA15738@gndrsh.aac.dev.com>
In-Reply-To: <199509021139.AA16156@RockyMountain.rahul.net> from "Pete Delaney" at Sep 2, 95 04:39:02 am

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> 
> Hey Rodney:
> 
>    > > So Rodney, which 4 GB Drive would you buy?  
> 
> I should have said "touch wood".

:-(.

>> Today, if you ordered a 4G drive from me I would first try to talk you
>> into 2 2.2G drives to load balance if this was a single disk for a single
>> machine:
>> XX. TMG QTM11265 Quantum, Capella 2.2GB, 3.5"x1", 5400RPM, 8.5MS       $ 800
>> XX. TMG QTM11265 Quantum, Capella 2.2GB, 3.5"x1", 5400RPM, 8.5MS       $ 800
>> 
>> If you already had disk space, or where looking for multiple 4G drives
>> to load balance your news spool on I would tell you:
>> 
>> XX. TMG SG15230N Seagate 4.3G, 3.5"xHH, SCSI-II, 5400RPM, 9mS          $1232
>> 
>> Yes, that is correct, Accurate Automation is actually _RECOMMENDING_
>> a SeaCRATE drive.  But only this ONE model at a single point on the
>> size curve.
>> 
>> If you must have speed (and you are going to bleed to get it) I would
>> recommend:
>> XX. BAS HDMC3243W Micropolis MC3243W 4.23G 3.5"xHH 7200RPM 8.5mS       $1495
> 
> I suspect I would have been better off bleeding. My SeaCRATE just bit the
> dust last night while I was installing NetBSD. It's spinning up, makes
> a click like it's trying to move the heads, and then spins down. Over
> and over again. It responds to a SCSI probe but won't stay on long enought
> to boot or run format on.  

It can't read the mode select pages from the reserved zone.  This is bad bad
news.  Your drive is toast.  Let it cool completely down and try again, if
it does come on line, BACKIT UP!  Then get it replaced, or if you can (doubt
it DOA policy is usualy <30 days) get your money back.
> 
> Any suggestions? I believe they also have a 5 yr warrenty, but 3 months is
> bloody short. It appears my gut instinct in favor of Micropolus may have
> been right after 
> all. My 1.0 and 1.7 drives haven't given me any trouble at all.

I had a price reduction occur on the MC3243 and MC4243W effective 8/31,
worst case looks to be $1265.00 and $1350.00, best case (and I don't know
why it went from these prices yet it is $1200 and $1287.00, he must have
read the wrong column on his update to me 9/1).

Given that I can now sell the Micropolis 3243 series drives at a price
point comparitive to the Seagate drive the segate drive has dropped from
my prefered list at this point and been replaced.  Boy, I just love this
industry.  One day I am telling people to buy a Seagate, within 36 hours
I am telling them I can get them a much better Micropolis for the same
or lower dollar amount :-).

[My Micropolis supplier must be reading the mailling lists and noticed
I was pushing Seagates and gone and got me some SPA pricing :-) :-)]

-- 
Rod Grimes                                      rgrimes@gndrsh.aac.dev.com
Accurate Automation Company                 Reliable computers for FreeBSD



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