From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Sep 20 18:01:39 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F080E16A4CE for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:01:39 +0000 (GMT) Received: from zeus.acuson.com (ac17860.acuson.com [157.226.71.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9291643D53 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:01:39 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch01.acuson.com ([157.226.230.208]:2378) by zeus.acuson.com with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1C9STq-0007Wa-3m; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 11:01:38 -0700 Received: by mvaexch01.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:58:29 -0700 Message-ID: From: Johnson David To: "'timh@tjhawkins.com'" Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 10:58:29 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.1 cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: RE: [Freebsd-advocacy] Re: Please explain. (What is HawkinsOS?) X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:01:40 -0000 It's been almost a day since this thread fizzled out, but I think there is an important lesson in it. Therefore I'm making this reply. timh@tjhawkins.com wrote: > ... > I do apologize for shouting, I've been getting alot of hatred messages > personally.. which is distrubing me.. You are getting a lot of personal negative responses because you trolled these lists. It is obvious you do not consider yourself a troll. But even though you did not intend to troll, you did anyway. Please take ten long slow breaths and then reread your original post from an objective viewpoint. You make several unsubstantiated assertions in a confrontational style, and your only actual question was itself merely a restatement of a previous unsubstantiated assertion. Then you cross posted it to three lists, one of which (this one) was so clearly off topic that all doubts of trolling were dispelled. In case you still can't see it, here are selected phrases from your original post: "horrible", "so much crap", "work-arounds". Your other replies included additional loaded phrasing. You even called into question the honesty of your responders! It is no surprise to anyone but you that people are taking this personally. I would suggest the next time you ask a question, to phrase it in a polite and non-confrontational manner. Do not cross-post it. Do not respond to replies with "I dare you to proof this false". Do not take it personally when people disagree with your core assumptions. There will be some people who will not forget your attacks here. YBut you still have a chance to redeem your reputation to others. But it will take time and it will require an extra degree of civility. David