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RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[4.3.c.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.97)[-0.975,0]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; SUSPICIOUS_RECIPS(1.50)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2019 13:53:53 -0000 Correct, this is ZFS only. And it's something we're using specific to = FreeNAS / TrueOS, which is why I didn't originally mention it as apart = of our CFT.=20 For UFS, there will need to be additional care taken when doing updates. = --=20 Kris Moore Vice President of Engineering iXsystems, Inc Ph: (408) 943-4100 Ph: (408) 943-4101 The Groundbreaking TrueNAS M-Series - Enterprise Storage & Servers Driven By Open Source -----Original Message----- From: Goran Meki=C4=87 =20 Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 9:43 AM To: Kris Moore Cc: Emmanuel Vadot ; FreeBSD Stable = ; FreeBSD Current = ; freebsd-pkgbase@freebsd.org; = freebsd-pkg@freebsd.org; freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; = freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CFT: FreeBSD Package Base On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 09:25:05AM -0400, Kris Moore wrote: > We've written our own tool "sysutils/sysup" in GO which handles this.=20 > It performs updates using Boot-Environments to ensure that=20 > kernel/world are updated at same time. If I'm right, UFS doesn't support boot environments, so how would it = work for UFS based installs? I personally feel GO is a bit ackward choice of language for something = that practically should be part of base. At least I would expect OS = update/upgrade not to require any external package. Regards, meka