From owner-cvs-all Wed May 29 3:51: 7 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.dmnstech.net (phoenix.dmnstech.net [194.19.34.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 86FBA37B403; Wed, 29 May 2002 03:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by phoenix.dmnstech.net (8.12.2/8.11.6) id g4TAortS028574; Wed, 29 May 2002 12:50:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from eivind) Date: Wed, 29 May 2002 12:50:53 +0200 From: Eivind Eklund To: Nik Clayton Cc: "David O'Brien" , Marcel Moolenaar , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base Makefile distinfo.alpha distinfo.i386 pkg-plist.alpha pkg-plist.i386 Message-ID: <20020529125053.A24253@phoenix.dmnstech.net> References: <200205280235.g4S2ZPr85521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020528040504.GB55559@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020528002336.A33431@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020528190151.C64264@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020528190151.C64264@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:01:51PM +0100 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:01:51PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 12:23:36AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:05:04PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote: > > > > Upgrade to Red Hat 7.x support. Many binary-only packages are now requiring > > > > Red Hat 7.x to run. > > > > > > We already have linux_base-7. > > > > Would you prefer no linux_base, but only linux_base-? > > I would. A lot of the Linux binary game servers in ports/games require > 6 rather than 7. Unless we make it possible to install *both* of these *at the same time*, with difference on a port-by-port basis as to which is used, I think this is one of the worst ideas since the triangular wheel. If we move in this direction, we create two incompatible FreeBSD configurations - one with linux_base-6 and one with linux_base-7. Some ports will work in each of these, but you will ALWAYS have a large subset of broken ports for your configuration. I also believe this is why the introduction of a linux_base-7 port by Marcel has had no effect - people that have ports that work with linux_base (V6) would effectively be breaking them by moving them to the SMALLER set of ports that work with linux_base-7. Thus, there is no maintainer incentive for doing the upgrade. I believe O'Brien is doing this the only way it can be done - by forcing a wholesale change to a new baseline, and attempting to make this baseline work with everything over a bit of time. This introduce breakage for a while, but that is the cost of progress. Eivind. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message