Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2016 18:21:12 -0400 From: "Mikhail T." <mi+oro@aldan.algebra.com> To: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org, pkg@FreeBSD.org Subject: gem, pip et al vs. pkg Message-ID: <a3bc5362-660f-80d5-c64d-f439052b259f@aldan.algebra.com>
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The ports tree has thousands of entries, which are simply thin wrappers
around Ruby's gem or Perl's and/or Python's pip.
Most of these ports conWhy do we need them? Obviously, it is primarily
for other ports to be able to depend on them. But why can't we satisfy
this need without creating a port for each such little package?
If a port declares:
RUN_DEPENDS= /foo/:gem//bar/[:/version/]
why can't the /bar/-gem (with the latest or specified version) be
automatically installed -- and/or registered as a dependency -- without
there being a dedicated port for it?
The biggest problem here is that neither Python's
<https://www.davidfischer.name/2012/05/signing-and-verifying-python-packages-with-pgp/>;
nor Ruby's <http://guides.rubygems.org/security/>; packages are normally
/signed/ (not sure about Perl's), so simply downloading them is
dangerous (not that this stops all people from using them anyway). But
this can be side-stepped by us maintaining a checksum file of our own --
it would still be easier and more concise to maintain such a table with
one row per package, instead of an entire port-directory with multiple
files in it.
In the other direction, if someone were to install a Ruby gem using the
gem-utility (or pip-perl, or pip-python, or even rpm), why aren't the
installed files registered in the pkg's database? We have the sources
for all of these utilities -- we can modify them to register the package
and its files with the pkg.
The changes may even be welcomed upstream, if they are abstract enough
to allow registration with the Operating System's package-manager on
/all/ OSes, which would bother implementing a custom backend...
-mi
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