From owner-freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Aug 11 17:01:06 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-security@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2319416A4DA for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:01:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from danderse@flux.utah.edu) Received: from bas.flux.utah.edu (bas.flux.utah.edu [155.98.60.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B566E43D46 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:01:05 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danderse@flux.utah.edu) Received: from bas.flux.utah.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bas.flux.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k7BH0kph072979; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:00:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from danderse@bas.flux.utah.edu) Received: (from danderse@localhost) by bas.flux.utah.edu (8.13.6/8.13.6/Submit) id k7BH0kpU072978; Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:00:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from danderse) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:00:46 -0600 From: "David G. Andersen" To: Wesley Morgan Message-ID: <20060811170046.GA94399@cs.utah.edu> References: <38802.1155288265@critter.freebsd.dk> <20060811123921.K43265@volatile.chemikals.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060811123921.K43265@volatile.chemikals.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, "Jos? M. Fandi?o" Subject: Re: atheros chips dangerous? X-BeenThere: freebsd-security@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Security issues \[members-only posting\]" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:01:06 -0000 Wesley Morgan just mooed: > I agree, the Atheros driver is fantastic. The driver may be "binary" in > some ways, but I think we got the best of both worlds. The vendor is > providing every scrap of information necessary without having to give away > trade secrets, and FreeBSD got a driver authored by a developer who is > probably one of the most qualified people in the world to work on it. I > know I go out of my way to purchase and recommend Atheros-based wireless > devices because of this. > It's not just trade secrets - it's FCC regulations, as phk alluded to. Customers are not allowed to have the ability to configure a device to operate outside its allowed frequency and power range. -Dave -- work: dga@cs.cmu.edu me: dga@pobox.com Carnegie Mellon University http://www.angio.net/ I do not accept unsolicited commercial email. Do not spam me.