From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jan 28 17:15:03 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C6F5106564A for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from elbbit@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ww0-f42.google.com (mail-ww0-f42.google.com [74.125.82.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA96B8FC08 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwi17 with SMTP id 17so1231462wwi.1 for ; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=W3W8LYK/3pfwz6Oyhezh5dz1C0vdLE+3B5GcedqY1pI=; b=OFxR2o34WfPRobVY5X/nF24hrQ1VBhiIl3oN/oTuDyfWCKaPvArBr/DDCm1s019e3x w8bGVaRNMHFFXm7P6UxVxxt0ZqJanMt6H9sryLIRzHxwpgd1vinJYdW95JQALjqYbHM1 7am0LPJEePL1JyHvXWxnRSuRD8wNSey9W2Ud0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:x-enigmail-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; b=RfdAKemxXzf7nmP0U9B5O0NU4t7J/BPY4cDnrkKqhqWqwefakeomren1asi6oUqM3P W3ODBP0fmuHK8tw3SUhnLbGke0K2FiNO0PZCzHYv4Y01Q/yQVapfkg3i6Rr8Htnv96nV M/zJGvhi+oSV4RrgO6o5+ordsk+tTohNFuRJs= Received: by 10.227.181.138 with SMTP id by10mr2950245wbb.216.1296234901169; Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:15:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.168.58.223] ([212.183.128.111]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id u9sm2748486wbg.6.2011.01.28.09.14.58 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:14:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4D42F987.9050101@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:14:47 +0000 From: elbbit User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101208 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Bonomi References: <201101281626.p0SGQHUq091539@mail.r-bonomi.com> In-Reply-To: <201101281626.p0SGQHUq091539@mail.r-bonomi.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Any package for surveys? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:15:03 -0000 On 28/01/11 16:26, Robert Bonomi wrote: Robert, I appreciate you taking the time to reply. I am not the only one who is interested in this argument. >>>>>>> elbbit wrote: >>>>>>>> I held off writing back because I have just launched a new website >>>>>>>> at: http://www.tibble.net/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wait! Don't go! This isn't spam! Please! Just listen! >>>>>>> Yes, it looks very spammy to me.... >>>>>> I sent similar emails to other lists and was promptly scalded for >>>>>> being so uncouth. I thank those who encourage me to stop spamming >>>>>> for teaching me humility. However, I think the importance of global >>>>>> self awareness is too important to worry about whether or not we >>>>>> like to know about the problems. This is the equivalent of a >>>>>> hit-and-run, in my opinion. I am here to stay, I am not going >>>>>> anywhere and the world will become self-aware in my presence. It is >>>>>> why I have been born. >>>>> >>>>> You are a delusion dipshit, and a bad liar. >>>> >>>>> If you feel so righteous about your cause, why did you hijack another >>>>> thread without changing the subject? >>>> With all the respect that is due to you, and all others who frequent >>>> these mailing lists, I feel the topic of global voting is too >>>> important to worry about whether or not my particular message fits >>>> into a defined category. >>> >>> And you think it's OK to *STEAL* other people's resources to get >>> "your" message out, apparently. >> Hmm. Stealing. Taking without consent. Consent from whom? The network >> operator? According to the Debian website: "There are many world-open >> mailing lists, meaning anyone can read everything that is posted, and >> participate in the discussions. Everyone is encouraged..." - Under the >> heading Introduction: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ > > Yes, *STEALING*. When you 'hijack' the resources the mailing-list owner/ > operator has provided _for_a_specific_purpose_, for somethin *unrelated* > to that purpose, you _are_ stealing. I would like to invite the mail list administrator to participate in this discussion (if desired) and clarify for all whether this argument is "OK." If it is not "OK," I request some clarification. >>> Doing what you did is *expressly* against The AUP of your hosting >>> services provider, Webfusion, Ltd. >>> >> Yes. Words. Somehow, it is commonly accepted that just because >> something is written in words that it is "right." My emails challenge >> that. > > You _agreed_, _contractually_, to abide by those 'words' when you signed > up for services with that provider. They 'took your word' that you were > telling the truth. Do not be surprised if you find that they choose not > to do any further business with you when they find out you -lied- to them. In fact, I did not agree to that. The agreement is between me and another company who I obtain the service from. Obviously, the company you mention are the ones who provide the actual service, and the brand I used is clearly a middle-man. If they are in violation, I do not know about it. Still, this is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with my ability to post to these lists. >>> That said, you've _made_ your rules, and now *you8 get to live by them. >> I do not understand this statement. Please clarify. You didn't clarify. >>> Russian brides, pharmaceutcals, watches, lottery winnings, money >>> sharing, and whatever else people decide is 'too important' for >>> _you_ not to be informed of. >> You see, the people who raise awareness of their product or service are >> after one thing - to increase the number which is displayed on their ATM >> machine. I do not want money. I do not promote a service or product. In >> fact, I promote an IDEA - the notion that we can abandon money >> altogether. > > So What? If you believe you can decide what is 'appropriate' for for _my_ > mail box, others can do the same for *yours*. No, that's not what I am saying. Everyone has the right to control what appears in their mail box. Only by raising awareness of the possibility that a world without money can exist will it ever come to fruition, and by speaking or writing to others on this planet I am able to let them know they can still educate themselves. >>> But, then, you're a spammer. >> Try not to think of me as someone different. > > You _are_ different. *PROVEN* by your actions. I am the same as you. We are both sending mail to these lists, and we are discussing. Your actions are not that different from mine. > And someone I do -not_ care to associate with. Then don't reply to my emails. >> I am someone the same. > Demonstratably incorrect. Thank you for teaching me to expand the context of my sentences. I value when people teach me the error of my ways, and I do not see it as damaging to my ego. Instead, I feel enlightened, knowing full well that I am now aware of what I was doing wrong, and I can make a change inside of me. Simon -- elbbit