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Date:      Sun, 23 Jul 2000 13:55:05 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Matthew Jacob <mjacob@feral.com>
To:        Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai <asmodai@wxs.nl>
Cc:        scsi@FreeBSD.ORG, sos@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: CAM layer
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.10007231349310.54040-100000@beppo.feral.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000723212621.P49169@daemon.ninth-circle.org>

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I've thought about it some, but since sos has such a lock on the current ATA
stuff I've not thought very far- sos and I don't get along very well which has
hampered taking the thinking very far.

The NetBSD midlayer has a good example of SCSI/ATAPI in one layer. It probably
wouldn't be *too* hard to add this all to CAM.

It's really less of a CAM issue than finding the right glue hooks so that
an ATAPI sim interface happens. I suspect that Justin's thought about this a
bit more.

In another context I've been fooling around with some of the newer ATA spec
thingies, and it would be to *BSD's advantage to have a unified ATAPI/SCSI
handler as there are many places of complete overlap.

But since I consider sos essenitally the complete owner of any of the ATA
stuff now, it's really up to him. We have a prettyu reasonably working i386
implementation. I think about a half day's work could dma-busify it (with no
real performance penalty) so I'd feel more comfortable about the alpha
platform support being solid. But whether or not there is a net benefit to
merged support such that da && sa && cd drive ATAPI devices is open to
question, and not just on a purely technical level.

> Is there anybody working on getting the CAM layer a bit less
> SCSI-specific in order to easily fold ATA under it so that we have a
> common access method, which CAM should be?
> 
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