From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 8 02:08:17 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0D4716A41F for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 02:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: from sigma.octantis.com.au (ns2.octantis.com.au [207.44.189.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58CF843D46 for ; Thu, 8 Sep 2005 02:08:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from freebsd@meijome.net) Received: (qmail 28657 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2005 12:08:11 +1000 Received: from andromeda.lef.com.au (HELO ?10.168.101.24?) (210.8.93.2) by sigma.octantis.com.au with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 8 Sep 2005 12:08:11 +1000 Message-ID: <431F9D06.90001@meijome.net> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:08:06 +1000 From: Norberto Meijome User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerod Prothe References: <431F3DF2.8010406@usd217.org> In-Reply-To: <431F3DF2.8010406@usd217.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: dns resolutions -- again X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 02:08:18 -0000 Jerod Prothe wrote: > Hello all, hey there > I contacted this list a few weeks ago (got good responses - thanks) > but now it seems that other domains are still not getting refreshed. What evidence have you got to support this assumption? > I set my zone file refresh at 20m. Why is it that our domain > (usd217.org) gets recognized by other domains (example: acck.edu) but > not by my isp (pld.com). I called them to ask for them to clear their > cache but they seem unwilling and not responsive. if I were you, I'd document the problem really well, make doubly (triple) sure it IS their problem, get a ticket # with all the informatin from the ISP, and then keep calling them until you are on first name basis with each person in the call centre...and keep escalating till you talk to someone who realises that their spending time on the phone with you is mor expensive than fixing the problem. > The old server (otto) > should not be getting asked to handle mail, but unfortunately, others' > records seem to indicate that. How can I get this changed throughout > the internet? whois usd217.org shows your NS are: Name Server:GALLEY.USD217.ORG Name Server:OTTO.USD217.ORG otto doesn't seem to answer any NS queries : --- $ nslookup.exe - otto.usd217.org *** Can't find server name for address 209.42.72.250: Timed out DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. Default Server: UnKnown Address: 209.42.72.250 > usd217.org *** UnKnown can't find usd217.org: No response from server Server: UnKnown Address: 209.42.72.250 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. > set timeout=20 > set type=mx > usd217.org *** UnKnown can't find usd217.org: No response from server Server: UnKnown Address: 209.42.72.250 DNS request timed out. timeout was 20 seconds. > ---- a) is it supposed to? b) if not, why have it as secondary NS at all? galley seems ok: -- $ nslookup.exe - galley.usd217.org Default Server: galley.usd217.org Address: 209.42.72.2 > set type=mx > usd217.org Server: galley.usd217.org Address: 209.42.72.2 DNS request timed out. timeout was 2 seconds. usd217.org MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = galley.usd217.org usd217.org nameserver = ns.usd217.org galley.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 ns.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 > --- now, to your ISP. I'm assuming they provide NS services to their clients using ns1.pld.com and ns2.pld.com $ nslookup.exe - ns1.pld.com Default Server: ns1.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.130 > set type=mx > usd217.org Non-authoritative answer: Server: ns1.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.130 usd217.org MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = galley.usd217.org usd217.org nameserver = ns.usd217.org galley.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 ns.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 > set type=ns > usd217.org Non-authoritative answer: Server: ns1.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.130 usd217.org nameserver = ns.usd217.org ns.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 ---- $ nslookup.exe - ns2.pld.com Default Server: ns2.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.131 > set type=mx > usd217.org Server: ns2.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.131 usd217.org MX preference = 5, mail exchanger = galley.usd217.org usd217.org nameserver = ns.usd217.org galley.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 ns.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 > set type=any > otto.usd217.org Non-authoritative answer: Server: ns2.pld.com Address: 206.253.33.131 otto.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.251 usd217.org nameserver = ns.usd217.org ns.usd217.org internet address = 209.42.72.2 ---- they seem to have the right information. now, IIRC, otto is doing nothing right? why don't you just give otto's IP to galley and see if that solves the problem? Otherwise, you may be having other problems at hand. Beto