From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Sep 8 16:54:36 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C40867E17D for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [204.107.128.30]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4H4Ssk3QtGz4b1g for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 571CC90898 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 188GsSJj062957 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:28 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 188GsSXN062954 for ; Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:28 GMT (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2021 16:54:28 +0000 (UTC) From: doug Reply-To: doug@safeport.com To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: zfs newbie - wow and thanks In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H4Ssk3QtGz4b1g X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@fledge.watson.org has no SPF policy when checking 204.107.128.30) smtp.mailfrom=doug@fledge.watson.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.57 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[doug@safeport.com]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.18)[-0.185]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_DOM_NEQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.38)[-0.385]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[watson.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11288, ipnet:204.107.128.0/24, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2021 16:54:36 -0000 On Wed, 8 Sep 2021, Arthur Chance wrote: > On 07/09/2021 23:17, Doug Denault wrote: >> advantages to one over the other? > > Note the zroot/ROOT/default tree. This lets you use boot environments. > If you're not familiar with them take a look at bectl(8) and > https://wiki.freebsd.org/BootEnvironments > > [bectl is a base system command very similar to the earlier beadm port > that you may see referenced in old documentation.] > > -- > Nothing teaches one not to try to stamp out burning thermite quite > like real-life experience. > ? James Davis Nicoll First, the above quote is just to good not to include. Secondly I am sorry for the double post, I accidently used a non-subscribed email to post. When I got the "you can't do this" email from questions I just did it again with a valid email. They eventually allowed my mistake also. Thank you for all the information. I got what I need to go forward with my immediate issues. It took me a bit to understand David's setup. That was exactly what I am going for. It's above my pay-grade now but I have some bare metal to learn and practice on. Thank you all, Doug