From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Sun Aug 5 23:07:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B642D10617DB for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 23:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.g.webster@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22a.google.com (mail-ua0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59AC77C45C for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 23:07:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paul.g.webster@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id h1-v6so10135579uao.8 for ; Sun, 05 Aug 2018 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=N0BoYTlxRbnf0c8KOJF49OdxsNOeazdHSt+ho/Nzqzw=; b=RPhKojgjuKV/wSWkYDmcKYYjPh9FXIbP+QIJ/ext8MS+zxWATLKaoJZ5EZsOmgukBG cP25/f6lePLPq9pbXpHKRtAOqnQltfTvIwL1GKN58Y5DUjsDt15vvD1CHdF1m/PrzM+7 9XUS802IsrTIg/D7AQoFtJ5cyI9cPCxhOKEtiElTt+vF2AED5r+BnZIBAHsZ9uMzMgPl W/TuRuTkeXMg/mv2JNf5XmBaO79Mim8g++ctM84cdTBp3g3lvIqMl8wDzlE5Y7u66n1J Dq6WMKCt+6AFbjLidh85Mp8bLnMbyNEqHGdoJ9bo9Yz1tnOdY45p+mrNDSRw6hzBPBuS C98A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHSUhrO2cvFiZEcBIOaPWcF6VwyMY7uJr+XNeREAAWdXlwlIIlO 8e3zS0trCfl0Kf9eJPaiz3vAdjMKaaDghWH2jYGtE2xi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpf/T7ykSpWTWp4L7gjwaO4LllSpffAfjl8Tk7hE6Rd4GtF1Udd+ZhcYSY+lz+5ABd2M1swnGUM/qQwxXbVZDrk= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:1584:: with SMTP id 126-v6mr8357314vkv.146.1533510433582; Sun, 05 Aug 2018 16:07:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:21ca:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Aug 2018 16:07:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180805224205.GB17784@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <20180805224205.GB17784@tau1.ceti.pl> From: Paul Webster Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2018 00:07:13 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Seeking advice on virtualization To: Tomasz Rola Cc: FreeBSD virtualization Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:07:14 -0000 In theory as ZFS works on both linux and BSD you could simply use vdevs and snapshots for easy transport On 5 August 2018 at 23:42, Tomasz Rola wrote: > On Sun, Aug 05, 2018 at 05:12:34PM -0400, Steven Friedrich wrote: > > I am looking for advice on which virtualization to experiment with > > first. What are the pros and cons of bhyve vs xen? I want to use > > FreeBSD as a host and have maximum flexibility with guests (mostly > > Linux distros). > > Right now I cannot give you pros and cons about specific solutions (I > am sure someone else will), but I would advice that you keep using raw > hard drive format. > > I.e. one where the layout of virtual drive is like what you would get > by doing "cat someemulateddrive". This makes it easier > when you decide to try another virtualisation / hypervisor. Or maybe > even switch between back and forth (but, of course, not run two > different hypervisors at the same time, on same machine - last time I > checked such a stunt was not possible). > > -- > Regards, > Tomasz Rola > > -- > ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** > ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** > ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** > ** ** > ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com ** > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-virtualization > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-virtualization- > unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >