From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Oct 10 8:28:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B8EB37B401 for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:28:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B7543EAC for ; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 08:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp1000.lariat.org@lariat.org [63.229.157.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26240; Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:28:24 -0600 (MDT) X-message-flag: Warning! Use of Microsoft Outlook is dangerous and makes your system susceptible to Internet worms. Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20021010092453.02934160@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 09:28:19 -0600 To: Terry Lambert , "Gary W. Swearingen" From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Congrats to Brett Glass for new BSD history article Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3DA48E32.2F841084@mindspring.com> References: <20021008145226.K30424-100000@pogo.caustic.org> <3DA36DF9.CD52524F@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:14 PM 10/9/2002, Terry Lambert wrote: >It was, in fact, this lack of having paid fees that permitted the >withdrawl of the UCSD P-code system from distribution, for all >licensees except Apple, who paid a fee to ensure the license was >in perpetuity, and used the P-code system in their "QuickDraw" >implementation in the original Macintosh. It was used in some code for the Lisa, but not in QuickDraw for the Mac. (If it had, QuickDraw would have been "SlowDraw.") Silicon Valley Systems created a native code compiler for the Mac that accepted the same flavor of Pascal, and this is what was used for Mac development. >> One exception might have been AT&T itself, which (as I understand >> things) might have paid very high prices for the products of WE & >> Bell Labs, as allowed by the 1956 decree, to fund those companies. > >Perhaps. But they were not permitted to recover such costs >externally, so the accounting tricks only mattered to their >bottom line tax bill. It mattered more than that. Remember, they were subject to "rate of return" regulation. If they could beef up the "funny money" expenses they booked, they could charge customers more real dollars. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message