From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Sep 12 03:00:08 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA22140 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA22135 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id TAA06619; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:29:40 +0930 (CST) Message-ID: <19970912192939.23558@lemis.com> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:29:39 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Aled Morris Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTN Emacs users; new Zile release References: <8943.874025373@time.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81e In-Reply-To: ; from Aled Morris on Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 10:34:40AM +0100 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8250 Fax: +61-8-8388-8250 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Fight-Spam-Now: http://www.cauce.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Sep 12, 1997 at 10:34:40AM +0100, Aled Morris wrote: > On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > >>> Hmmm... I for one would not want it to be the standard editor. Vi is >>> and always has been the standard editor for unix. I think it should >> >> I think you misunderstand. This doesn't replace vi and never did. >> ee is a *different* editor, for a different audience, and the fact >> that you symlink it to vi on your own box is completely and utterly >> irrelevant to that fact. :) > > I wish EE's default was Emacs keybindings though - rather than "yet > another" set of made-up keystrokes [aside: OK, flame me, they're standard > from some popular package with which I am not familiar, right?] > > Many other apps use Emacs keybindings (X programs for example) so it is > useful for newbies to at least get used to the "standard". Agreed. Note that this list includes such popular programs as Netscrape. > In the style of this thread: "the first thing I do after installing > FreeBSD for a newbie is > echo 'emacs noexpand nomargins' >>/usr/share/misc/init.ee > " Hmm. Greg