From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jan 21 18:25:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f98.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 927C937B400 for ; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:24:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 21 Jan 2001 18:24:50 -0800 Received: from 161.142.232.12 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:24:50 GMT X-Originating-IP: [161.142.232.12] From: "BSD Blood" To: cyberhawk@home.com, bastill@sa.apana.org.au Cc: dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au, mike@sixpak.net, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2001 02:24:50 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jan 2001 02:24:50.0427 (UTC) FILETIME=[7F306CB0:01C0841A] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a Creative Labs 3D Voodoo Banshee. In my case, redhat detected my video card perfectly. FreeBSD had problems with it. I'm using the same version of X. I believe it's in the OS; i.e. how they have enhanced the configuration, detection, etc. >From: hawk >To: bastill@sa.apana.org.au >CC: Doug Young , Mike , >freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: FreeBSD 4.2 and X >Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 21:58:00 -0800 > >Oddly Enough it shouldnt do that ;) >I have Several Linux/BSD installations on my Test cpu (debian, Mandrake, >RH, Slackware, BEos, FreeBSD, OpenBSD and NetBSD, hey its my test cpu ;) >and in general, the only change you need to do to get the sever running is >Play with >the monitor type. I know strange, i think, the problem is that each distro >detects >monitors a different way? Possibly, oh well =) > >Brian Astill wrote: > > > Strange.... > > I tried to install RH6.2 on free space on my second HD. It balked >(permanently) > > when it came to installing X. > > Then I obtained FreeBSD 4.2. Installed X with no trouble at all. > > The monitor is a cheap generic SVGA, the card Diamond Stealth 2000 Pro >(4MB). > > > > Does this mean that certain combinations of HW & SW simply won't work >together? > > I still don't understand why RH would not install, where FreeBSD went >"like a > > charm" when SFAIK the versions of Xfree86 are the same. > > > > Brian. > > > > On Sat, 20 Jan 2001, Doug Young wrote: > > > > > > I've had exactly the same problems several times when I tried to >install X, haven't been too concerned because my main use for FreeBSD has >been gateway boxes that are probably better off wihout X anyway (seems most >experts believe so for security reasons). > > > > > > Occasionally I get a 3.x "X" setup to work fine (never once a 4.x) >although its not consistent enough to use regularly. I still have >nightmares from my linux (gasp, cough, splutter) days thinking about KDE >lockups / crashes etc and haven't yet used XFCE sufficiently to feel at >homewith it .......If I really want a Unix GUI then I install Solaris 8 >which works properly EVERY time & has reliable support for applications I >use (particularly StarOffice / Oracle that as far as I'm aware are still >quite experimental in FreeBSD). For what its worth, X is probably fairly >straightforward but like most things its just the inadequate explanation >about configuring it that causes lots of people so much aggro. > > > > > > If I did have a pressing need for FreeBSD 4.x / XFree something / >StarOffice I'd be browsing sites like freebsddiary.org, bsdvault.net, >mostgraveconcern (links from previous sites) which generally have >docomentation better suited to us non-experts than official stuff like the >Handbook etc. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Mike > > > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2001 10:46 AM > > > Subject: FreeBSD 4.2 and X > > > > > > > > > I've tried installing from CD (4.0) > > > I've tried installing from ftp (4.2) > > > I've tried installing the 5.0 current > > > ... > > > and in each case somehow the installation goes wacked when it comes >to X. > > > > > > Everytime I try to run XF86Setup it pauses for 30 seconds and tells >me it can't initialize the (X) server. > > > > > > What I WANT to do is install minimally, adding things as I learn and >grow, not have everything but the kitchen sink installed and then try to >make sense of it. But whenever it comes to X, I'm cursed. > > > > > > One time I got it running correctly, but somehow I ended up with >parts of XFree 3.3.3 and XFree4.0 mixed up. It was a confusing mess. So >I'm starting over for the 20th+ time. > > > > > > Is anyone else having install problems with X? What kind of install >are you doing (I'm doing X-User, maybe I should go with developer to get >source files?) and what version of FreeBSD are you using? (I'm TRYING to >get 4.2 to work) > > > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" > > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Content-Description: > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Brian > > > > ******************************************************** > > Dr Brian Astill Visiting Research Fellow > > Flinders University Institute of International Education > > Bus 8201 3480 FAX 8449 9199 > > bastill@sa.apana.org.au > > ******************************************************** > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. 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