From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Feb 6 17: 7:14 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5ED37B401; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from gnuppy.monkey.org (wsip68-15-8-100.sd.sd.cox.net [68.15.8.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F14443F75; Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:07:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from billh@gnuppy.monkey.org) Received: from billh by gnuppy.monkey.org with local (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 18gwyl-00011J-00; Thu, 06 Feb 2003 17:06:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 6 Feb 2003 17:06:55 -0800 To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Marc van Kempen , John Polstra , "John L. Utz III" , Brent Verner , freebsd-java@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, rwatson@freesbsd.org, calvin.austin@sun.com, brian@collab.net, bod@freebsdfoundation.org, "Bill Huey (Hui)" Subject: Re: patchset 2 report (billh's resignation) Message-ID: <20030207010655.GB3899@gnuppy.monkey.org> References: <01E2A478-3A25-11D7-8CFD-0003930B8FFA@bowtie.nl> <20030206175143.E15295@sasami.jurai.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030206175143.E15295@sasami.jurai.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.3i From: Bill Huey (Hui) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Feb 06, 2003 at 06:00:55PM -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Thu, 6 Feb 2003, Marc van Kempen wrote: > > If you'd just say "Bill you're an **** for insulting me the way that > > you do, but I have since researched the mailing list and commit logs > > and acknowledge that you have made a big contribution to the whole java > > porting process and more specifically to the hotspot port, and we would > > have certainly consulted you had I known." > > > > Now is that so hard? > > You know, one doesn't typically -demand- recognition. Not in a function group, no. But this isn't the case. > If you're working on something of your own volition "for fun" you can't > seriously expect anything for your efforts. If you require some sort of > compensation you're free make that a condition for others to use your > work. Sure, you can. I can expect the my work be respect, recognized and that this earns a kind of status in a group. That's the point of the entire thing otherwise they're basically stealing my work without recognizing me. > Rational people don't go stomping around demanding that the world be > perfect for them. When you've done something the key and critical to a project you shouldn't be shitted by your peers or anybody else. If I had been properly recognized as a technical lead in this group then it wouldn't have been a problem. So, yes, I have to toot my horn so that the absolute idiots in this group realize that I did this significant and groundbreaking work. That was never question until John and Nate conspired against any kind of reasonable recognition of my role in the group. That's just fucked up any way you cut it. bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message