From owner-freebsd-current Thu Nov 21 15:45:31 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5381937B404 for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:45:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E973B43ECD for ; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 15:45:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.6/8.12.5) with SMTP id gALNjNBF020358; Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:45:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 18:45:22 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Brad Knowles Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Searching for users of netncp and nwfs to help debug 5.0 problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Brad Knowles wrote: > At 5:23 PM -0500 2002/11/21, Robert Watson wrote: > > > (And, you have to bring your own test environment, as the second sentence > > suggests, but doesn't actually state). > > Over on -chat, we're in the process of putting together a list > of volunteers, hardware, organizational talent, etc... to help test out > -DP2. Mark Murray is involved, but I personally would like to see at > least one or two more core team members committed to making this happen. > > If we can get a suitable group of people together, with suitable > hardware, and get the coordination effort done correctly, I believe that > we can help make this a much more successful project. > > Your assistance in this effort would be greatly appreciated. I appreciate the effort, and am interested in the idea, but in this case it was as much a solicitation for a developer as for the testing environment itself. This won't just be "testing" of netncp and nwfs, this will probably require a developer to have local access to a netware configuration that they can do nasty things to in order to exercise the code properly. Unfortunately, those seem to be in short supply. If I might suggest: there's a freebsd-qa mailing list. It's a great place to organize QA efforts, whereas freebsd-chat is notorious for its lack of signal (it's where dead signals go to rot). That's why I read it about once a month. If you moving the conversation there and get a bunch of people subscribed and interested, they'll be able to look there for the stream of bug fixes associated with the install process, and get easy access to the testing guide as it evolves, since we usually pass drafts through there, etc. Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Network Associates Laboratories To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message