From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 5 18:43: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from ind.alcatel.com (postal.xylan.com [208.8.0.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC66D14EE0; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:42:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from mailhub.xylan.com (mailhub [198.206.181.70]) by ind.alcatel.com (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1 (ind.alcatel.com 3.0 [OUT])) with SMTP id SAA15286; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:41:58 -0800 (PST) X-Origination-Site: Received: from omni.xylan.com by mailhub.xylan.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4 (mailhub 2.1 [HUB])) id SAA24610; Sun, 5 Dec 1999 18:41:57 -0800 Received: from softweyr.com ([204.68.178.39]) by omni.xylan.com (4.1/SMI-4.1 (xylan engr [SPOOL])) id AA22609; Sun, 5 Dec 99 18:41:55 PST Message-Id: <384B228D.FFE9728@softweyr.com> Date: Sun, 05 Dec 1999 19:42:21 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: Matthew Dillon Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI DMA lockups in 3.2 (3.3 maybe?) References: <199912050514.VAA58998@apollo.backplane.com> <3849FD95.F0434263@softweyr.com> <199912050646.WAA59445@apollo.backplane.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matthew Dillon wrote: > : > :All running software has serious problems, that's why it is never considered > :done. Taking the time to enumerate specific problems that are currently > :plaguing an installation is the only way anyone can possibly hope to help. > :Problems reports of "It don't work" are helpful to absolutely noone. > > This simply isn't true. I have written plenty of software (large > projects) that do not have serious problems and, in fact, some do not > have any known problems at all. I have written several operating systems > and one of them is least as complex as the FreeBSD core (but not as > complex if you count drivers) which are bug-free (that is, there have > been no recorded crashes and except for feature updates have never been > rebooted). So you haven't discovered the rest of the bugs in the system. Software is created by humans, and humans are fallible, therefore the software is also fallible. Any claims of divinity on your part will be summarily rejected. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message