From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Sep 9 09:57:36 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11398 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:57:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11391 for ; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:57:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA13088; Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:57:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@time.cdrom.com) To: andrewr cc: Darren Reed , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2.2.6 zp/tcp fuckups. In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 11:32:52 EDT." Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 09:57:04 -0700 Message-ID: <13083.905360224@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Im sorry, but 226 seems to be working fine for everyone but you. I'm not sure if that kinda remark is going to help here, especially with someone as easily combustible as Darren Reed. It's probably more correct to say that Darren is trying to use a PCCARD driver which COMPLETELY SUCKS (and the ze/zp drivers are already well known to fall into that category, especially considering what hacks they were on the old ed/ep drivers) and his results are not all that particularly surprising. At least the PAO code lets you use the mainstream drivers for PCCARD devices, e.g. the ed/ep drivers themselves rather than older hacked versions of them that have long since been considered obsolete. If it weren't for the fact that the z? drivers still have some residual value as installation media, they'd have probably been chopped out of the system with a fire axe long ago. And no, there's nobody currently working on integrating the PAO code in their place. I wish there was. Tatsumi Hosokawa was given commit privs so that he'd be able to do so, in fact, but then he was eaten by a wooly mammoth* which escaped the advanced hibernation studies facility at the University of Tokyo and we sort of lost that opportunity. Anyone else wishing to pick it up in the interim would be MORE than welcome to do so, yes indeedy. - Jordan * Yes, I know wooly mammoths are herbivores. The entire incident was very mysterious. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message