From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 10 19:54:13 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3D3B16A4CE for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:54:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp01.glenview.famvid.com (smtp01.glenview.famvid.com [66.94.212.14]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7043D54 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 19:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wgrim@siue.edu) Received: from smtp01.glenview.famvid.com ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost) by smtp01.glenview.famvid.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfWdi-0008MT-1t for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:51:50 -0600 Received: from smtp01.glenview.famvid.com ([127.0.0.1])port 10024) with ESMTP id 31853-01 for ; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:51:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from smtptemp.glenview.famvid.com ([10.253.4.20] helo=mail.famvid.com) by smtp01.glenview.famvid.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfWdb-0008Lc-7d for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:51:43 -0600 Received: from 13spidialup147.famvid.com ([66.94.203.147] helo=siue.edu) by mail.famvid.com with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 1AfWgk-0006At-RY for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:54:59 -0600 Message-ID: <4000C8D8.4080204@siue.edu> Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2004 21:54:00 -0600 From: William Grim Organization: SIUE User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <20040108163724.GA26745@lpthe.jussieu.fr> <20040110013313.Q51801@ganymede.hub.org> <200401101945.27234.wes@softweyr.com> In-Reply-To: <200401101945.27234.wes@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at famvid.com Subject: Re: Discussion on the future of floppies in 5.x and 6.x X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: wgrim@siue.edu List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2004 03:54:13 -0000 Wes Peters wrote: >On Friday 09 January 2004 09:34 pm, Marc G. Fournier wrote: > > >>On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Michel TALON wrote: >> >> >>>Sincerely FreeBSD developers have more important tasks than spending >>>hours to fit an installable system on floppies. When FreeBSD used >>>one floppy, it was tolerable to do floppy installs. With 2 or 3 >>>floppies it is awfully slow, i have done once and will never do it >>>again. >>> >>> >>I still use floppies to do my installs, and find getting the base >>system up over FTP to generally take <30minutes *shrug* Faster, IMHO, >>then downloading the ISO and burning it to a CD .. >> >> > >Faster than loading a single ISO image with only the boot information and >sysinstall and booting from that, rather than 3 (or 4 or 5) floppies? A >CD-R is cheaper, faster, more reliable, and you don't have to keep >feeding them into the machine. > > > Yes, and what about my P3-500 server that has no CD drive in it? I hardly think I'm going to purchase a CD drive just for that server. If there ever comes a time when I have to decide between purchasing a CD drive to reinstall a broken installation of FBSD that I have deemed unrecoverable or using linux (where I can use floppies all day and night), I'll be installing linux. However, on this note, I would like to say I'd like to help out with a floppy project, but I would not want to be "floppy maintainer." At least, not until I knew a lot more about how things worked, and even then, I'm not sure, because of time and lack of several test systems. Later! -- William Michael Grim Student, Southern Illinois University at Edwardsville Unix Network Administrator, SIUE, Computer Science dept. Phone: (217) 341-6552 Email: wgrim@siue.edu