From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 9 06:12:20 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7732E16A4CE for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 06:12:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cmsrelay03.mx.net (cmsrelay03.mx.net [165.212.11.112]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4745A43D48 for ; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 06:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from noackjr@alumni.rice.edu) Received: from uadvg137.cms.usa.net (165.212.11.137) by cmsoutbound.mx.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2004 13:12:19 -0000 Received: from optimator.noacks.org [65.69.0.65] by uadvg137.cms.usa.net (ASMTP/noackjr@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.13N) with ESMTP id 472iDiNmq0280M37; Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:12:16 GMT X-USANET-Auth: 65.69.0.65 AUTH noackjr@usa.net optimator.noacks.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91D796162; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:12:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: from optimator.noacks.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (optimator.noacks.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 34282-06; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: from alumni.rice.edu (compgeek [192.168.1.10]) by optimator.noacks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DEA460E7; Fri, 9 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <4076A12E.4060508@alumni.rice.edu> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 08:12:14 -0500 From: Jon Noack User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.5+ (Windows/20040312) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Ames References: <20040408224527.GA8299@norsu.kameli.org> <20040409121542.GD26247@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20040409122729.GA19110@energistic.com> In-Reply-To: <20040409122729.GA19110@energistic.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at noacks.org cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org cc: Atte Peltomaki Subject: Re: Future of FreeBSD X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: noackjr@alumni.rice.edu List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Apr 2004 13:12:20 -0000 On 4/9/2004 7:27 AM, Steve Ames wrote: > On Fri, Apr 09, 2004 at 02:15:42PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote: >> As a user the best you can do is document all your problems to the >> developers; if you want the project to go in a certain direction, >> or 'finish' a particular project, you'll have to step in as a >> developer because that's how opensource (or at least this project) >> works. You can't sit by the sideline and say 'hey this is going >> wrong' while generally waving your arms about. > > You could also gather some money together and financially encourage a > developer or two to move in a direction you prefer. Rewards for > certain features have been posted and accepted in the past. Putting > together the necessary financial commitment to help nudge or > accelerate the project in a certain direction doesn't seem totally > out of question. If your talents lean more toward fund-raising than > coding this is certainly a viable strategy for you. Just another > option. Griping has traditionally not accomplished anything. Document > your problems specifically, fix them, or encourage others to fix them > for you. Here's a direct link to help make this happen: http://people.freebsd.org/~phk/funding.txt Jon