From owner-freebsd-chat Mon Nov 2 18:48:28 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA24559 for freebsd-chat-outgoing; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:48:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24550; Mon, 2 Nov 1998 18:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA12643; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:18:10 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) id NAA21216; Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:17:50 +1030 (CST) Message-ID: <19981103131749.R354@freebie.lemis.com> Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 13:17:49 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: "Jonathan M. Bresler" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: The halloween document again. References: <19981103101021.H354@freebie.lemis.com> <199811030108.RAA11402@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199811030108.RAA11402@hub.freebsd.org>; from Jonathan M. Bresler on Mon, Nov 02, 1998 at 05:08:08PM -0800 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday, 2 November 1998 at 17:08:08 -0800, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > its FUD....genuine microsoft FUD. > > > microsoft is in the middle of alawsuit with the federal > gov't, perhaps the only organization with enough money and > lawyers to beat them in court. the greatest possible, not > most probable, danger to microsoft is that hte company > will be split into an OS branch and an applications branch > (cf ATT and the baby bells) > > > to disprove the gov'ts case, microsoft will take action > vigorously in and out of court. the Vinod Valloppillil is > an example. witness these two quotes in the news.com > article > (http://www.news.com/News/Item/0,4,28215,00.html?st.ne.ni.lh): > > 1. "Clearly, there is real and tangible competition in the > operating systems market and as a company that makes > operating systems, Microsoft is clearly paying attention," > said spokesman Adam Sohn. "We're examining competitive > issues all the time." > > 2. "Relative to other OSS projects, Mozilla is considered to be > one of the most direct, near-term attacks on the Microsoft > establishment. This factor alone is probably a key galvanizing > factor in motivating developers towards the Mozilla > codebase," the memo says. "The availability of Mozilla > source code has renewed Netscape's credibility in the > browser space to a small degree." > > Please dont find against us judge, we cant barely defend > ourselves against this new threat...... ;) That's only part of the story. The report also recommends: > Fold extended functionality into commodity protocols / services and > create new protocols > > Linux's homebase is currently commodity network and server > infrastructure. By folding extended functionality > (e.g. Storage+ in file systems, DAV/POD for networking) into > today's commodity services, we raise the bar & change the rules > of the game. I think that this would be significant ammunition against Microsoft in the suit. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message