From owner-freebsd-hackers Fri Sep 12 03:18:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id DAA22916 for hackers-outgoing; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:18:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (word.smith.net.au [202.0.75.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id DAA22910 for ; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 03:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from word.smith.net.au (localhost.smith.net.au [127.0.0.1]) by word.smith.net.au (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA02326; Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:46:15 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199709120946.TAA02326@word.smith.net.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0zeta 7/24/97 To: Aled Morris cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ATTN Emacs users; new Zile release In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 Sep 1997 10:34:40 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 Sep 1997 19:16:15 +0930 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > On Thu, 11 Sep 1997, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > > I think you misunderstand. This doesn't replace vi and never did. > > ee is a *different* editor, for a different audience, and the fact > > that you symlink it to vi on your own box is completely and utterly > > irrelevant to that fact. :) > > I wish EE's default was Emacs keybindings though - rather than "yet > another" set of made-up keystrokes [aside: OK, flame me, they're standard > from some popular package with which I am not familiar, right?] Probably 8) Actually, I have been meaning to put "dte" forward for some time now. It's comparable in size to ee (external help file, erk.), and has a very lenient license ("please credit the author"). In addition, it uses the Worstar key set and has assorted hoopiness builtin for dealing with slow lines (it dates from HP3000 days originally). The only barf I have with it is that it eats trailing whitespace (stupid!). Thousands of Monash internees will recognise it, as it is the standard editor on campus (and much better than the vile Ludwig that was the flavour around here). If 'ee' is loathed for reasons other than that it is "not vi" and "not emacs", maybe dte would do? mike