From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Jun 5 00:57:03 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C69D339570 for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 00:57:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.17.24]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass Class 2 CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49dPPB4r12z4TWv for ; Fri, 5 Jun 2020 00:57:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([178.5.236.150]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue109 [212.227.15.183]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 1MAORp-1jnuhA2tp5-00Bw3k; Fri, 05 Jun 2020 02:56:55 +0200 Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2020 02:56:55 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Robert Huff Cc: David Christensen , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Minimal skills Message-Id: <20200605025655.5e75b15e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <24281.37948.274297.76623@jerusalem.litteratus.org> References: <20200604074134.89eb6518.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604005859.ca438474.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200604020051.0c02472d.freebsd@edvax.de> <6b5318f0-8139-0994-5a3f-de646496b2dc@holgerdanske.com> <24281.37948.274297.76623@jerusalem.litteratus.org> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:g4hhUFca6fiPwKYqkMMhSsTFiN8xEH9HzwizgGr5D3VjfioH7qA QR8dT75BnL293QffvQNvPLMk9/4gggv7g7V78h5Btdcmw0/C6NrQd5UyGygq8jIMGu+5qMx rKhTBhsp6W+LGtNxu7Vf/gaAsqO8RIsQ/zwKmGbKrcs6o1mOqMjUmmu+mlJiD73x7MVy/KM 2g2qCpUEyDJB1JYq1y76A== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:TSWfLCJjxgw=:gh3ywMFaOW04gghkIcMFdQ 86HOktNjL0+ICrisGcVNbzyt8Tnv8iYCqps5eczBLIuOr4j2TuuTNamCJylO6hMuPm54afm3M Pgx7058iDoIi858jcV7YMSO8u0TlaaD5us9Op1QiHGJmq5r0bDPrp6uwGj/I0Tdgw0uWB8XDB xPe3CY+YrY3D2Iz4yluGS5WZf5iVfReFf/dxkQAzoHQXSfSKBXHCyctd9+1zYiM89+nCH+2FA U4L0ThpkxZgHmAWyZNlmwovKiwjwPWGMEsGQF8XQgKP/+SowWHqbaSwLC3oH7bkMQCORUczbZ reNva0Yj440YfZFmAYXi/Ez1YeHd8eEcCW8axl3dKReODl/Ap3N2jSOouvQKplWuhg4zv3RGJ 3dzTadgADg6nQ2GIFBtk00AEfACyIRVw8GO7gjJTO1Suue7fqq8Iwp6qoMkj4SpwCmpY2y8Yl 8oitMOrwaPLpHZnP6oce5l8eEjLONX5+dNeBDr2afh79q2Ke8ztaQV82oq08g6I2yGlKjs9i5 Mt6flr6+MXiC+4usLdZyl4vFaZPFnSvApmfviXEsiY9lhHIBD5PIw/rQYWBKL/AwWsiiYcvrZ hVpPf8ibW9ZxWx40uykOUEMdzsTppvEhTDUvXomm1inmu3mSjR8yVI862yhvF2pw4R4ftHDCp m7Ugv47iF7etpzj2yR4JxEJlvk1OXDmdQajzOSv9X3ExtDxmXuz1f9ywXoqECNR+47BLQQcLl hjciKEmUwqGPxII9RXydTjO+lM+52bOwSGl3d62DKKWuPAOK/3Mcl0LsbTrCk/bO3EzEH3hyB LPmPmCn2RdnMWM7KXaWfjsy2xQ9J44BwF0dym0wJoicTuI8CJJW4I45OrZs5IxhJHHO82Up X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49dPPB4r12z4TWv X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@edvax.de has no SPF policy when checking 212.227.17.24) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@edvax.de X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.64 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@edvax.de]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.19)[-0.193]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[178.5.236.150:received]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:8560, ipnet:212.227.0.0/16, country:DE]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.84)[-0.844]; REPLYTO_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.72)[-0.721]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[edvax.de]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_CONTAINS_FROM(1.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[212.227.17.24:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Jun 2020 00:57:03 -0000 On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 20:39:24 -0400, Robert Huff wrote: > > David Christensen writes: > > > >> The canonical C book is: > > > > >> https://www.pearson.com/us/higher-education/program/Kernighan-C-Programming-Language-2nd-Edition/PGM54487.html > > > > On 2020-06-04 14:02, Brandon helsley wrote: > > > > > The link you sent me for the c programming language is from 1988. > > > Wouldn't it be better to use a newer study book? > > > Should I look for something newer? > > > > AFAIK C has not changed (?) > > This is not the case; the latest revision of which I am aware is > the 2018 Standard (which is the 2011 Standard with bug fixes). > > > and K&R 2e is still the standard text: > > There's a reason this is still _the_ "Start here." book. It's also worth noting that C from different eras is present in the FreeBSD code base. While "man 9 style" is mostly followed, the capabilities of the evolving C standard can be different, and compiler options might force a specific standard, so assuming that "I pick the latest and it will always work everywhere with any compiler" is false. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...