From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jun 13 21:00:20 2007 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1931E16A41F for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:00:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: from mu-out-0910.google.com (mu-out-0910.google.com [209.85.134.185]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88BA913C44B for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:00:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from illoai@gmail.com) Received: by mu-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id w9so341471mue for ; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=hBj3QKVLlPBOIgjgbVj/pb6gncXrrK0Tc/eUKPQvxpRfw0CVdgvErbwF0YUocxWwUTrn3AXfQOVR4SkDr0mTtiMCoXDQfK+skI+DugWdb+90mCuOVjW/2X3K5kKzRHj2fal8d829orCeD0jOQfmx3zOFZ8uN3PM9765i0a+nlkE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=YVbYiWiSljzQlE8VdSkJQH0I/dbTQ91srGUaaiAshVSvaCDebfkcIGFubzxSJvKux1GxysS5AswBihIgsisMr320H1bq3wO1KASrYBF4zUaaDBXvN8TRvpG9xXBAzsNP/UFHXLbLn3xUzWSOD7WVZ14eS3cEYbriuRXcmHS2GEU= Received: by 10.82.136.4 with SMTP id j4mr1921251bud.1181768418030; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.187.12 with HTTP; Wed, 13 Jun 2007 14:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 17:00:17 -0400 From: "illoai@gmail.com" To: "Andrew Falanga" In-Reply-To: <340a29540706130625l4fefdac5ke1d88783e459ab92@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <340a29540706120902k2c10be37q8656814f9fcfc649@mail.gmail.com> <20070612161414.GA68472@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <340a29540706120925g2816f84elfbd14cb5e278358b@mail.gmail.com> <20070612203425.GA74894@slackbox.xs4all.nl> <340a29540706121628u1fdc583el7ecdb3596f7d48e4@mail.gmail.com> <340a29540706130625l4fefdac5ke1d88783e459ab92@mail.gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Fresh install won't compile requirement libraries for cvsup X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 21:00:20 -0000 On 13/06/07, Andrew Falanga wrote: > On 6/12/07, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > > On 12/06/07, Andrew Falanga wrote: > > First off, my apologies to the group. I think I've been hitting > "reply" only and not "reply-to-all". > > > > > > > > > If the compiler (cc) dies with a 'fatal signal 11', you could have a > > > > memory problem. See e.g. http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/faqs/GCC-SIG11-FAQ > > > > > > > > Roland > > > > > > Ok, while researching these things I found this. Does FreeBSD have a > > > work around? > > > > > > http://membres.lycos.fr/poulot/k6bug.html > > > > > > This machine I'm having problems with is an AMD K6. > > > > A K6-700? Without doing too much > > flabulous research, I believe the K6 > > stopped at 300MHz. A 700 would be > > a K6-III, which would not have the > > 32MB problem. Flaky and heat-sen- > > sitive they are indeed. And there is > > a lot of junk 133 memory out there > > too. > > > > Based on my limited experience, about > > 60% of the time you can run 100MHz > > memory at 133MHz. If not you may have > > to rejumper your bus-speed to 100. > > If you are further unlucky the board > > won't have a 7:1 multiplier and you'll > > be stuck underclocking pretty seriously. > > > > What is a 7:1 multiplier? > The CPU on basically every x86 machine after the original pentium runs faster than the bus (or memory) speed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Front_Side_Bus The board will probably have jumpers (though sometimes boards this old will have bios options) to select Front Side Bus speed (typically 33, 50, 60, 66, 75, 100, 120, and 133MHz on a machine of this age) and a second set of jumpers to select the CPU multiplier. An old K6-III 450MHz I have here uses a 100MHz bus and a 4.5:1 multiplier (which alternately might have been marked 9:2) to obtain the 450MHz CPU speed. A 700MHz CPU on a 100MHz bus would require a 7:1. If it really does have a 133MHz bus, it might be set to something like 5.2:1. In any case, your troubles are likely either bad memory or a too-hot CPU, the second of which might be something as simple as dust or a bad fan bearing. -- --