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Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 18:22:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jason Andresen <jandrese@vt.edu>
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On Mon, 21 Apr 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote:

=)	critism from those that use or have used unix enough to
=)	understand is valid.  sinson grafinkel for instance (one
=)	of teh authors. at least his name is on the cover of my
=)	copy.)   but being hosted at microsoft.com does not impress
=)	me.  seems raterh transparent.  but i may be mistaken
=)	just look at my spelling ;)

>From reading the introduction on the web page, I had the impression that
SG never became aquanted with the ctrl-x-s in Emacs.  He also spent
extensive time bashing the stability of early Suns running early versions
of Emacs. 
Through the entire intro, I had the feeling that the author was straining
to find enough negative points to fill the intro.  
My final impression was that the book would be good for pointing out some
of the fundimental difficulties that new users have, and maybe a few
technical problems, but on the whole, the book would be dated and not
relevant to the current generation of UN*Xs.  

IMHO of course.

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