From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 13 14:53:59 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9A516A417 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:53:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: from hs-out-2122.google.com (hs-out-0708.google.com [64.233.178.247]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D708B13C43E for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:53:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gerard@seibercom.net) Received: by hs-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id h53so1894906hsh.11 for ; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.151.11.17 with SMTP id o17mr1967300ybi.120.1200236033003; Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio ( [67.189.206.211]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 34sm9305819wra.23.2008.01.13.06.53.52 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 13 Jan 2008 06:53:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 09:53:41 -0500 From: Gerard To: FreeBSD Question Message-ID: <20080113095341.4e34f42e@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <20080113082515.19316v8x3pbs3tcs@intranet.encontacto.net> References: <64c038660801040516u5c42a6cpadb475ad67fb4730@mail.gmail.com> <20080104174955.52aa33fd@gumby.homeunix.com> <64c038660801041029t1a9662bayed3ca02fd46c7ece@mail.gmail.com> <64c038660801041226k1d350bc6p727e4666ea295727@mail.gmail.com> <477FFE14.1010704@monkeybrains.net> <477FFF63.50004@gmail.com> <47801D54.8050709@gmail.com> <47803E3F.2080005@monkeybrains.net> <47804901.6090007@gmail.com> <4786BF45.8030602@monkeybrains.net> <4786CEDC.3050009@chuckr.org> <20080111170711.t6wxj1bc68cgwwk4@webmail.leidinger.net> <4787E597.9040902@chuckr.org> <20080112213747.443a4833@deskjail> <20080113082515.19316v8x3pbs3tcs@intranet.encontacto.net> Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.5; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Face: 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 X-Face: "\j?x](l|]4p?-1Bf@!wN<&p=$.}^k-HgL}cJKbQZ3r#Ar]\%U(#6}'?<3s7%(%(gxJxxcR nSNPNr*/^~StawWU9KDJ-CT0k$f#@t2^K&BS_f|?ZV/.7Q User-Agent: Claws Mail 3.0.2 (GTK+ 2.12.3; i386-portbld-freebsd6.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/hFA7_cI0yCnF4itfD9FiIcp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=PGP-SHA1 Subject: Re: Another question based on: Re: HOW-TO get Flash7 working! X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Question List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 14:53:59 -0000 --Sig_/hFA7_cI0yCnF4itfD9FiIcp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 08:25:15 -0600 eculp wrote: [snip] =20 > Flash is becoming more dominate daily and there are many sites that =20 > are basically unusable without it. Some banking, telco, etc. sites, =20 > etc. That are difficult if not impossible too use for account > access without flash and don't pay much attention to end user > requests based on the installed base of Flash[89]. That brings up > another detail, many sites now require Flash[89] even though they > don't actually need it probably to impress their customers with their > being on the technological, bleeding edge. Unfortunately, the poor support for Flash, as well as other common web features under FBSD, is a prime reason that I continue to keep my WinXP PC operational. At least Window's Internet Explorer, despite its real or alleged problems, can correctly access virtually any site I want or need to visit. As the above poster stated, being able to correctly and expeditiously navigate through a banking site is an important criteria. I belong to a state 'Officials Association' that deals with officiating High School sports. Their site is written in such a way that Flash with either Windows Media Player or QuickTime are required to properly view the site. Try as I might, I have never gotten either Opera or Firefox using FBSD to correctly view that site. I basically just gave up on it. The same problem exists with many sites sponsored by Google for instance. If this was 1990, perhaps I could understand it. However, considering the present state of computing, the fact that plug-ins like Flash are not simple drop-in applets, similar to the way Internet Explorer handles them, is simply not acceptable. Just my 2=A2. --=20 Gerard gerard@seibercom.net The next unpopular group to have its rights taken away should be illegal aliens. --Sig_/hFA7_cI0yCnF4itfD9FiIcp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.8 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkeKJfUACgkQ6DWTaTcTwMmRlgCginGIKWuU5zunNb7/wJOM8w9J 4E4AoNiSkhgiHIT6VQtycHDguGuU2V8R =OJqi -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/hFA7_cI0yCnF4itfD9FiIcp--