From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue May 1 05:10:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0561D10673C8 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 05:10:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 531F88FC16 for ; Tue, 1 May 2012 05:10:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q4159kt9005943; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:09:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q4159j0i005940; Tue, 1 May 2012 07:09:45 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 07:09:45 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: Garrett Cooper In-Reply-To: <74720B93-61ED-4CA4-88C1-173356742F3A@gmail.com> Message-ID: References: <092518C9B5214244805F7D2022A4F663@multiplay.co.uk> <1168656383.74335.1335567528359.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <5E0882E0-405F-46AC-9290-8A195FECD2F4@gmail.com> <74720B93-61ED-4CA4-88C1-173356742F3A@gmail.com> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Tue, 01 May 2012 07:09:46 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Rick Macklem , Jerry McAllister , "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" , Mehmet Erol Sanliturk , Steven Hartland , Andy Young , Chris Rees Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 May 2012 05:10:42 -0000 > Advertising that it exists and is used is more important than saying "x sucks, use y instead". This is the tone I was getting from the previous response and this is what I discourage as well as others on the list. It was just an example. I don't use FreeBSD because Oracle Solaris sucks but because it works best for me. No other unix not only is as fast but allows so easy tuning like compiling own kernel and configuring things. What do you prefer - few files in /etc, like rc.conf to configure almost everything in base system (+starting installed ports), or thousands of files in modern "linux distro" or oracle solaris? Sorry but when i HAD to deal with linux i just deleted most of /etc and write my own /etc/rc. Solaris 11 was just an example of overadvertised things that are just useless. Linux is "trendy" and quality is second thing, but it had to be everywhere including things that should not have OS at all, like VoIP gateway.