From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 3 15:23:05 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 583B31065670; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:23:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fjoe@samodelkin.net) Received: from mail-gx0-f182.google.com (mail-gx0-f182.google.com [209.85.161.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8B088FC14; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 15:23:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ggnp1 with SMTP id p1so1472973ggn.13 for ; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:23:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.182.45.6 with SMTP id i6mr507507obm.3.1322925783948; Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.182.76.225 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Dec 2011 07:23:03 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [80.89.199.122] In-Reply-To: <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> References: <20111202115446.GB25963@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <4ED974A2.7080606@FreeBSD.org> <4ED9EA27.8090206@inse.ru> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 21:23:03 +0600 Message-ID: From: Max Khon To: Roman Kurakin Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Cc: Adrian Chadd , Doug Barton , Peter Jeremy , freebsd-current Subject: Re: CVS removal from the base X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:23:05 -0000 Rik, On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Roman Kurakin wrote: >> The fact that we have so many people who are radically change-averse, no >> matter how rational the change; is a bug, not a feature. >> >> This particular bug is complicated dramatically by the fact that the >> majority view seems to lean heavily towards "If I use it, it must be the >> default and/or in the base" rather than seeing ports as part of the >> overall operating SYSTEM. >> > > You are right in general, except one small factor. We are talking about > bootstrap. > CVS is used by many as the one of the ways to get the sources to the freshly > installed system to recompile to the last available source. It will become > inconvenient > to do it through the process of installing some ports for that. Especially > if corresponding > ports would require some other ports as dependences. Do you really use CVS and not cvsup/csup? CVS != csup. Max