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Date:      Fri, 16 Aug 2024 06:49:11 -0700
From:      Chris <portmaster@bsdforge.com>
To:        Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz>
Cc:        henrichhartzer@tuta.io, Freebsd Ports <freebsd-ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: quarterly 2024Q3 amd64 / 13.3 missing all vital packages for desktop
Message-ID:  <b308436009f0b342d0a417b351f1c01d@bsdforge.com>
In-Reply-To: <3c600636-34a5-4d6c-86d6-f04da1daa806@quip.cz>
References:  <608da216-2047-4fdd-b48b-88659dedb27c@quip.cz> <O4NO4ux--3-9@tuta.io> <3c600636-34a5-4d6c-86d6-f04da1daa806@quip.cz>

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On 2024-08-16 00:37, Miroslav Lachman wrote:
> On 16/08/2024 01:34, henrichhartzer@tuta.io wrote:
>> Hi Miroslav,
>> 
>> Please see my email titled: "Quarterly backport for multimedia/x265 patch" 
>> sent to this list a few hours before yours. Shortly after sending it, the 
>> patch was committed to 2024Q3. Builders will have to catch up, but 
>> hopefully things can be resolved.
>> 
>> I do feel like this could have been caught and fixed faster with some 
>> better alerting. I've heard of pkg-fallout and know little of it, but maybe 
>> it should have noticed this? Or did it? I have no idea.
>> 
>> I know it's a terrible experience when pkg is wanting to remove your 
>> desktop packages in bulk.
> 
> Thank you for pointing to this thread.
> This is really bad experience with quarterly branch. I think the branch 
> should be
> published only after the successful build of main packages. Blindly created
> quarterly branch which is not working for about 6 weeks is terrible 
> experience.
While I completely agree. I'm wondering if this isn't more a pkg(8) deficit. 
eg; if pkg first
determined that all/most of the packages intended to be upgraded did not 
exist, issue a warn, with the
option to bail/quit. Leaving the system untouched.

--Chris
> 
> Kind regards
> Miroslav Lachman

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