From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 4 17:09:23 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BEE716A4CE for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:09:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from out014.verizon.net (out014pub.verizon.net [206.46.170.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0238743D2D for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:09:23 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from FreeBSD@keyslapper.org) Received: from keyslapper.org ([68.163.177.192]) by out014.verizon.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.06 201-253-122-130-106-20030910) with ESMTP id <20050104170922.WEAX28388.out014.verizon.net@keyslapper.org> for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:09:22 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by keyslapper.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1C7B11C8C for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from keyslapper.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (keyslapper.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 95232-07 for ; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:09:21 -0500 (EST) Received: by keyslapper.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2C81911C6D; Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:09:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2005 12:09:21 -0500 From: Louis LeBlanc To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Message-ID: <20050104170920.GD94265@keyslapper.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org References: <3A426BB0-5DB0-11D9-B56F-000D9333E43C@secure-computing.net> <72cf361e05010312346cabce01@mail.gmail.com> <20050103205637.GB76250@keyslapper.org> <41DAC1A8.7040605@incubus.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <41DAC1A8.7040605@incubus.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at keyslapper.org X-Authentication-Info: Submitted using SMTP AUTH at out014.verizon.net from [68.163.177.192] at Tue, 4 Jan 2005 11:09:22 -0600 Subject: Re: SpamAssassin-Milter accuracy... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:09:23 -0000 On 01/04/05 05:17 PM, Matthias Buelow sat at the `puter and typed: > Louis LeBlanc wrote: > > > Use with care. Some spam rbls are overly zealous, and often block out > > whole netblocks just because one IP has been reported as an offender. > > And all dialup networks. Which can lead to the bizarre situation that > if you're relaying through your mail server from a dialup IP, and mail > goes thru SA, you'll get a high score. There're several ways to prevent > this from happening, of course, for example, to run an extra smtpd on a > nonstandard port that doesn't push mails through SpamAssassin, or just > to disable the damn RBL stuff in the SA config (I did both, greylisting > is more effective than the suspicious RBL stuff anyways). This includes most dynamically allocated IP blocks. The only way to avoid getting tagged and/or outright rejected by some networks is to relay through the ISPs relay. It's because of this that I don't use the spamblock RBLs at the MTA level. SA works almost perfectly with it's own clearing house checks (NJABL, SORBS, SPAMCOP, etc.) and modifies the score for each. I've dug up some recipes that will further compound scores for multiple of these clearing houses too, so you get bonus points for getting reported to 3 or more :) I do use the blackholes (check http://blackholes.us) at the MTA, since rejecting mail outright from Asian (and a few African) countries has reduced my spam intake by about 80%, without reducing my legitimate mail by a single message. Since I'm not running a service for other people, and I carefully choose the blackhole domains I use, it's not a problem for me. Of course, that may not be an option for you. Someday I'll stop this practice, but for now some of my doors are just plain closed. Lou -- Louis LeBlanc FreeBSD@keyslapper.org Fully Funded Hobbyist, KeySlapper Extrordinaire :) http://www.keyslapper.org ԿԬ Volley Theory: It is better to have lobbed and lost than never to have lobbed at all.