From owner-freebsd-current Thu Oct 1 12:10:11 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14402 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14306 for ; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:09:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00720; Thu, 1 Oct 1998 12:13:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199810011913.MAA00720@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Terry Lambert cc: mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith), karl@Denninger.Net, tom@uniserve.com, dnelson@emsphone.com, bright@hotjobs.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Long IDE probes? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 01 Oct 1998 05:21:04 -0000." <199810010521.WAA25695@usr02.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1998 12:13:34 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > The "bootable" qualifier is a non-issue. The correct question would be > > "does anyone have a device which is not ATA-3 compliant and/or takes > > some time to respond to a Software Reset command"? > > > > You were the WD1007 champion for a long time, Terry. Still carrying > > the flag? > > Sure. WD1007 ESDI probes very, very quickly, since you are required > to identify the drives in CMOS, and the kernel can read CMOS. > > ...NEXT! You're only "required" to indentify the boot device. The WD1007 may not be the boot device. It may not even have an x86 BIOS onboard (eg. ex-Apollo WD1007-ASV). I'm merely championing the pathalogical cases here. I'd like nothing more than to scrap everything that doesn't meet PC97 and start working on things that will really help, but there are too many people out there with noncompliant hardware that'd kill me. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message