From owner-freebsd-current Thu Jul 4 10:37:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80C9B37B401; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from april.chuckr.org (april.chuckr.org [66.92.147.143]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFB043E09; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 10:37:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Received: from chuckr.org (localhost.chuckr.org [127.0.0.1]) by april.chuckr.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g64HYhJ47500; Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:35:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chuckr@chuckr.org) Message-Id: <200207041735.g64HYhJ47500@april.chuckr.org> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 13:34:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey Subject: Re: Recommended MP development machines... To: peter@wemm.org Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, gnn@neville-neil.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20020704065915.8FDA2390F@overcee.wemm.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 3 Jul, Peter Wemm wrote: > Chuck Robey wrote: >> On Wed, 3 Jul 2002, David O'Brien wrote: >> >> > On Wed, Jul 03, 2002 at 07:43:22PM -0700, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: >> > > I know everyone says "they all work" but i'd like some recommendations > on >> > > MP machines for -CURRENT work. I'll be ordering one this week. >> > >> > There is but _1_ dual system to get -- Tyan Thunder K7 (code name Guinness) > . >> > http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7.html. It comes in multiple >> > flavors, but mine is the dual-channel Ultra160, dual-3com 10/100, 5-64bit >> > PCI, 1 AGP version. You can cheap out and not get the non-SCSI S2462NG >> > model. Match this bad-boy up with a pair of fast Athlon `MP' (not `XP') >> > CPU's and it is a totally solid system. Various FreeBSD committers also >> > have this system. >> > >> > There is a newer [more economic] version called the Thunder K7X. >> > http://www.tyan.com/products/html/thunderk7x.html >> >> "more economic" is a poor way to describe it, seeing as it has all the >> features, plus (1) an updated version of the AMD mp chipset and (2) a >> fixed onboard usb port. The K7 had a broken on-board usb (the AMD >> chipset had a PCI contention bug for the usb port, so the tin back panel >> of the board blocked out the usb, and the K7 came with a PCI usb card, >> which ate up one of your PCI slots. The K7X has a repaired on-board usb, >> so you get that PCI slot back. > > Hmmmmm..... Do you have any details on this? I've had occasional strange > USB-related things happen on this box. Of course, it runs -current which > puts me into the USB danger-zone enough as it is.. but what happens when > this bug is triggered? Sorry it took so long, the web site I originally found it on has apparently disappeared. This link, however, describes the problem neatly: http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/24472.pdf ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include C & Java programming, FreeBSD, chuckr@chuckr.org | electronics, communications, and signal processing. New Year's Resolution: I will not sphroxify gullible people into looking up fictitious words in the dictionary. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message