From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Dec 25 19:27:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id TAA17773 for questions-outgoing; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:27:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (gregl1.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA17736; Thu, 25 Dec 1997 19:26:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) id NAA00442; Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:52:58 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from grog) Message-ID: <19971226135258.52813@lemis.com> Date: Fri, 26 Dec 1997 13:52:58 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Julian Elischer Cc: "Jonathan M. Bresler" , Evan Champion , staylor@mrynet.com, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@mrynet.com Subject: Re: Dropped from ALL freebsd lists?!? References: <199712260237.SAA15647@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: ; from Julian Elischer on Thu, Dec 25, 1997 at 07:00:11PM -0800 Organisation: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Thu, Dec 25, 1997 at 07:00:11PM -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, Jonathan M. Bresler wrote: > >> Evan Champion wrote: >>> >>> to be unsubscribed for one bad day -- without any notice that you were >>> unsubscribed, I might add -- seems a bit much. I mean, bounce for 3 days, >>> and definitely boot the person, but for one day I don't see the reason for >>> it. >> >> i am sorry that you lost mail, but my responsibilility is to >> all the subscribers and our mail-relays. no point in >> sending mail that i have reason to believe will bounce. >> it just slows mail delivery for everyone else. > Evan > there is a definite difference between a crashed mail server > (in which case the mail will wait quietly somewhere for delivery) > and a server that spams the list with 3 dozen annoying messages. > > remember also that it may have been a 15 minute stuffup on your part > but the slow and tortuous delivery of mail to some parts of the world mean > that people were getting these messages over a period of hours. > it's possible that jmb was a bit quick, but that's the luck of the > draw and really it's a judgement call by him. We have to support > him on this, becasue can you imagine how the list would look if he > didn't do it? Good summary. > it might be a good idea if there was amailing list for peple removed, > that sent 1 message per day for 2 weeks or so, saying that they were > removed.. Good idea. jmb, what do you think? Greg