From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jun 24 02:41:18 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (unknown [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF381106566B for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:41:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-unix@embarqmail.com) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B18A8FC26 for ; Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:41:18 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1308883277; h=From:Subject:Date:To:Mime-Version:Content-Type; bh=W73+kbtM9NJIRyOJirwyWotSM8E=; b=n/2b8YB0V8INFmhlT+2rMNQOHxNLZkT+UTmAT+K7GAS+hjyjDze+yVQPAfL07QHg kCTl9TenlZL9LtDxAxCapPInAyRTLwbIUC9/DXlG/Ifp8QsWyBxVUXFut+FD/Q9t; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=e1eURaw3o2GcvYNcxnqm9TydJq70Gwlq6IkPTYJfkfo= c=1 sm=0 a=1poGYrevpj8A:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=BhER33N8vDN0g5+N+wJ41A==:17 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=KlBSdv2zZW97PZExLXcA:9 a=xRj1qhKBUyd3-_eTw0wA:7 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=BhER33N8vDN0g5+N+wJ41A==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp02.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=rpratt1950@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [74.4.54.98] ([74.4.54.98:49988] helo=tv.weeeble.com) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id 51/D6-01155-D49F30E4; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:41:17 -0400 Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:41:16 -0400 From: Randy Pratt To: rsimmons0@gmail.com Message-Id: <20110623224116.08d73206.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> In-Reply-To: <201106232214.55439.rsimmons0@gmail.com> References: <20110621074416.58869e66@scorpio> <201106212203.p5LM3NbI005159@fire.js.berklix.net> <20110623201029.9b489db9.bsd-unix@embarqmail.com> <201106232214.55439.rsimmons0@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 2.6.0 (GTK+ 2.14.7; i386-portbld-freebsd6.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd list admins? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 02:41:18 -0000 On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:14:55 -0400 Robert Simmons wrote: > On Thursday, June 23, 2011 08:10:29 PM Randy Pratt wrote: > > I don't think making a list writable only to subscribers solves > > anything since it seems the spammers are already subscribed. This only > > makes it difficult for others like myself who read the lists online and > > only post occasionally. > > Making it writable to subscribers only in-and-of-itself does not solve the > problem, but it is one of two things together that will fix the repeated > spammer problem. The second is removing and banning offenders. Without making > the list subscriber only there is no way to get rid of spammers. Additionally, > for your situation, you can filter everything from the list to /dev/null. I've been reading these lists for over 13 years, seen this discussion many times, and the list remained open. There were reasons for that which are in the archives if you're interested. I'm no longer an active committer so whatever @core decides is fine with me. I, however, would prefer to see it remain open. I'm done with this potentially endless discussion. Randy