From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Sat Jan 21 22:48:10 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9016ACBB745 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:48:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) Received: from dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu (dmz-mailsec-scanner-2.mit.edu [18.9.25.13]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27F68336; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:48:09 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kaduk@mit.edu) X-AuditID: 1209190d-547ff700000008fb-30-5883e5205066 Received: from mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu ( [18.9.21.35]) (using TLS with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by (Symantec Messaging Gateway) with SMTP id 44.E4.02299.025E3885; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:48:02 -0500 (EST) Received: from outgoing.mit.edu (outgoing-auth-1.mit.edu [18.9.28.11]) by mailhub-auth-1.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.9.2) with ESMTP id v0LMlxe4020166; Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:48:00 -0500 Received: from kduck.kaduk.org (24-107-191-124.dhcp.stls.mo.charter.com [24.107.191.124]) (authenticated bits=56) (User authenticated as kaduk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU) by outgoing.mit.edu (8.13.8/8.12.4) with ESMTP id v0LMluFW024122 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:47:58 -0500 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 16:47:56 -0600 From: Benjamin Kaduk To: Glen Barber Cc: "O. Hartmann" , freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ISO image: where is the CLANG compiler? Message-ID: <20170121224756.GT8460@kduck.kaduk.org> References: <20170118101915.523d7d7b@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118123515.GE58505@zxy.spb.ru> <20170118160801.229b4134@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170118153832.GA6905@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170118203726.7dea0515@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20170119055816.GA2184@c720-r292778-amd64> <20170119101636.5537f4fd@freyja.zeit4.iv.bundesimmobilien.de> <20170119191000.GG1451@FreeBSD.org> <20170119193830.GH1451@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20170119193830.GH1451@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-Brightmail-Tracker: H4sIAAAAAAAAA+NgFvrNIsWRmVeSWpSXmKPExsUixCmqrKv0tDnCYGa2xZw3H5gs9jcfYLPY f+8wuwOzx4xP81k85r07zRLAFMVlk5Kak1mWWqRvl8CVcXvrcvaCz2wVK3pOszYwHmftYuTk kBAwkehoeAVkc3EICbQxSXzZf4ARwtnIKHFk+Soo5yqTxJ2enWAtLAKqEpt3vGEBsdkEVCQa ui8zg9giAooSe65+B6rh4GAWcJfY+7wCJCwMtOHI5pPsIDavgLHExKcNUDNbWST2vD3EBJEQ lDg58wnYTGYBLYkb/14yQcyRllj+jwMkzClgIHHl+kewclEBZYmGGQ+YJzAKzELSPQtJ9yyE 7gWMzKsYZVNyq3RzEzNzilOTdYuTE/PyUot0jfRyM0v0UlNKNzGCw1WSdwfjv7tehxgFOBiV eHgP7G2OEGJNLCuuzD3EKMnBpCTKu/tjQ4QQX1J+SmVGYnFGfFFpTmrxIUYJDmYlEd5Z94HK eVMSK6tSi/JhUtIcLErivOIajRFCAumJJanZqakFqUUwWRkODiUJ3iuPgRoFi1LTUyvSMnNK ENJMHJwgw3mAhos8ARleXJCYW5yZDpE/xajLcerThZdMQix5+XmpUuK8vSBFAiBFGaV5cHNA aUYie3/NK0ZxoLeEeTtA1vEAUxTcpFdAS5iAlshKgC0pSURISTUw5hg2Kkcv0ZrUm3PcL65y al3uy3aLnOe1zJ19a2YfP26hdXCC+DpdibZcW9f3DNYLPjkH/0/rmG3eYDehXefpzQllHqcP vdx0iOXRUok3sQoJmizPEvKvy9+N3Hk6xPTbnGXifhfmbetZwzCH5aJ/+5fk3WrRlVZFgiI2 6povA3Re6V40Y1NQYinOSDTUYi4qTgQAEMj6/A4DAAA= X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2017 22:48:10 -0000 On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 07:38:30PM +0000, Glen Barber wrote: > > Random thought: > > Brought up out-of-band, can you try this from a memstick.img and your > already-built userland/kernel to do what you had originally tried to > install the system? > > # make -C /usr/src WITHOUT_SYSTEM_COMPILER=1 DESTDIR=/wherever installworld > > I think this is why cc(1)/clang(1) is not being used from /usr/obj, and > you don't have a compiler to compile the compiler. Sorry for jumping in late, and thanks for bringing this up -- I was surprised that we had gone so long without someone making the claim that a compiler should not be necessary for installworld/installkernel (as was my understanding). If indeed a compiler is necessary for those (perhaps only under certain circumstances such as those experienced by Oliver) it would be good to understand why. -Ben