From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Oct 30 7:20:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2467237B401; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 07:20:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from caddis.yogotech.com (caddis.yogotech.com [206.127.123.130]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14237; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:20:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by caddis.yogotech.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f9UFKjH06710; Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:20:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15326.50508.909158.688936@caddis.yogotech.com> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2001 08:20:44 -0700 To: tlambert2@mindspring.com Cc: John Baldwin , Nate Williams , chat@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: time_t not to change size on x86 In-Reply-To: <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> References: <3BDE6ED3.64DC027E@mindspring.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > My personal peeve with C++ is that is a growth on teh side of C (although at > > this point it's larger than C..) I prefer the way Java lays out code > > (functions defined within the class, etc.). Unfortunately, the > > implemenetations of Java running around aren't the speediest unless you are > > running !FreeBSD. :-/ Granted, speed isn't needed for all things. > > Java has several problems: > > 1) It can't do multiple inheritance This is certainly not a problem. This is a good thing, and one of the strengths of Java. It doesn't bring in all of the *crap* that C++ does. In any case, you can perform almost all of the same functionality using interfaces, in a much cleaner fashion. I've yet to find a good example of multiple inheritance that couldn't also be done in a simpler fashion using Java + inheritance. > 2) You can instance classes without constructing them (the > JavaMail API has a number of examples of this) And your point is? > 3) Strong typing is for weak minds That's an elitist attitude from someone who hasn't tried using it. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message