From owner-svn-src-head@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Feb 19 23:27:19 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-head@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BC3E106564A for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dougb@dougbarton.us) Received: from mail2.fluidhosting.com (mx22.fluidhosting.com [204.14.89.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A6B8FC0A for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:27:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 31394 invoked by uid 399); 19 Feb 2011 23:27:14 -0000 Received: from router.ka9q.net (HELO doug-optiplex.ka9q.net) (dougb@dougbarton.us@75.60.237.91) by mail2.fluidhosting.com with ESMTPAM; 19 Feb 2011 23:27:14 -0000 X-Originating-IP: 75.60.237.91 X-Sender: dougb@dougbarton.us Message-ID: <4D6051D0.8050704@dougbarton.us> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 15:27:12 -0800 From: Doug Barton Organization: http://SupersetSolutions.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20110129 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Carlos A. M. dos Santos" References: <201102131818.p1DIIuLL046962@svn.freebsd.org> <201102192007.32979.bruce@cran.org.uk> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 OpenPGP: id=1A1ABC84 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Bruce Cran , svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r218650 - head/games/fortune/datfiles X-BeenThere: svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the src tree for head/-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:27:19 -0000 On 02/19/2011 15:12, Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: > On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:07 PM, Bruce Cran wrote: >> On Saturday 19 February 2011 17:25:32 Carlos A. M. dos Santos wrote: >> >>> Did anybody complain about this? If not, would you mid either revert >>> this commit or just go ahead and move all "potentially" offensive >>> jokes to fortunes-o? Anything from Grouch Marx or Mark Twain will >>> probably qualify. >> >> I'm happy to revert the checkin if you think the fortune should be in the main >> file, since it appears the PR submitter was complaining just as much about >> being unprofessional as offensive. Would you like me to go ahead and revert >> the move? > > I suggest you to revert the commit Serious overkill, particularly since: 1. The commit has already been MFC'ed, and 2. The fortune in question actually _is_ potentially offensive And let me save you another loop through the arguments you've already put forward. I realize that this fortune does not offend _you_, that's not the issue. I also heard your argument that "If you're going to do this one, you have to do them all!" Which I reject with the standard error code, ENOTINTHIRDGRADE. The nerderati community likes to demonstrate how cool and sophisticated we are at least in part by showing how un-offended we get by things in fortune. Well, that's great for you. The problem with diving into editing the fortune databases is that you run right into the mother of all bikesheds with everyone trying to _prove_ how hip and sophisticated they are. For this reason in addition to the note that I sent to this list I spoke privately to Bruce about the fact that what we have now is a sort of detente, where the people who would like to move some of the fortunes into fortunes-o do not do that, but we apply a stricter standard to _new_ fortunes. This "works" in the sense that nothing is really made worse by it, and everyone is a little unhappy because no one is getting everything they want. Bruce did what he thought was the right thing in an effort to close a PR. There is no reason to castigate him for it, and there is certainly no reason to revert the commit. Every once in a while someone has to come along and step on this particular land mine, it was just Bruce's turn. Everyone can now move along and find more productive things to work on. Doug -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/ -- Nothin' ever doesn't change, but nothin' changes much. -- OK Go Breadth of IT experience, and depth of knowledge in the DNS. Yours for the right price. :) http://SupersetSolutions.com/