From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 22 22:34:03 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57E4D106568F for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:34:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from delphij@gmail.com) Received: from mail-pw0-f44.google.com (mail-pw0-f44.google.com [209.85.160.44]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5038FC14 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:34:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pwi15 with SMTP id 15so4430235pwi.3 for ; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:34:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=+6J4aAbz8kq2SZUv4qHW1lC7I2b3qs9SoFpEmKYnAgk=; b=xKK1JBiMt7AfHnL5B0oLhoxfzJqThfYWWTtj3Uk11fm39+nAKPeNU7rqoabhLYTxXX T147jxDDiGbJyKMGHlHWIZjtCisZCYKCEB2yEZTrTAjnqTbNdnRnQrILN2bChizh7KUY ouEcW5tU35rrFe6ghWok2t3+RbBpO9vs7zkIg= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=JTUu0BwbXaGNf3Euz6tjzrw10D8qp1zWPwKjGepryx1V6iUqEck6KK8989DpXyZ5Sx 2PC0B8tYtGV4jq+tA9NA827acc+vN8SZx1tygzz7ggu3kuYRopjFBON4sGiauQavlmdo uGFYSdCrPiy+bMwyPzTvar/KmXDVERBc6eT+Q= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.115.117.9 with SMTP id u9mr6261858wam.172.1261521240742; Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:34:00 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:34:00 -0800 Message-ID: From: Xin LI To: Jason Spiro Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestion: rename "killall" to "fkill", but wait five years to phase the new name in X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 22:34:03 -0000 Hi, On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Jason Spiro wrote: > jhell DataIX.net> writes: >> >> This is what shell aliases are for and what a system admins job consist >> of. If it gives you that much of a problem just alias it out for your se= lf >> in your .cshrc .shrc .bashrc .bash_profile etc. If you want to change >> something on a more per user basis figure out how to setup a skeleton >> directory so when a new user is created they get all the files from that >> skel copied into there home. If it is more of a system-wide change then >> the shell files in /etc will probably be of more use. >> >> PS: Applying your changes to a mailing list are not const. > > Using aliases would help me, but wouldn't help people elsewhere in the wo= rld who > don't know what SysV killall does. =C2=A0Renaming FreeBSD killall would h= elp prevent > them from getting burned, perhaps on a busy production server, even once. I'm afraid that it's too late to change either parties, i.e. there would be a lot of scripts that rely on the BSD or Linux behavior, etc. Instead of making changes to killall which already diverge between open source implementation and closed source ones, it might be better off to have administrators to learn some more consistent ways to do the same task, i.e. pkill. Cheers, --=20 Xin LI http://www.delphij.net