From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Dec 11 16:14: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0716E37B50F for ; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from owt.com (owt-207-41-94-232.owt.com [207.41.94.232]) by rutger.owt.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA08201; Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:13:36 -0800 Message-ID: <3C16A12E.7030909@owt.com> Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 16:13:34 -0800 From: Kent Stewart User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:0.9.4) Gecko/20011019 Netscape6/6.2 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dochawk@psu.edu Cc: Mike Meyer , Leif Neland , questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Spam and this list References: <200112111436.fBBEanl74729@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dochawk@psu.edu wrote: > mike mentioned, > > >>As for the rest of the lists, going subscriber-only would help be >>nice. >> > > debian-user has that restriction. It's been a couple of years since I > was subscribed to that, but spam still got through . . . I personally think that their ISP's abuse mail drop should receive an email from everyone who is bugged by the SPAM. I personally think SPAM is a theft of services and approach it that way. If the ISPs received 30-70K complaints, the spammers would understand what all "plumbers" know because it would be flowing downhill to them. There is a group in Raleigh, NC that are particularly irritating. They have their own IP but when you do a traceroute, you will find that they are attached to qwest.net. It doesn't do any good to email the Raleigh people but you may get the attention of the Qwest people. I use to add to my signature something about it being hard to think you are soaring with Eagles when you accept spam like a mouse. I only add it now when I forward a spam to the abuse drops. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message