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To: Paul Richards <paul@isl.cf.ac.uk>
cc: phk@ref.tfs.com (Poul-Henning Kamp), nate@trout.sri.MT.net,
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Subject: Re: What I'd *really like* for 2.0.5 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 29 Apr 1995 08:31:45 BST."
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Date: Sat, 29 Apr 1995 04:30:20 -0700
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From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
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> How are we going to get debugging info back from users?
> 
> Currently we can ask them to send the output of dmesg to see what's happening
,
> telling them to boot -c and *copy down the values* is a lousy argument in
> my book.

Yoo hoo!  Paul!  Are you listening!

Repeat after me:

	boot -v
	dmesg

We lose nothing.

					Jordan