From owner-svn-src-stable@freebsd.org Thu Mar 15 17:36:28 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AACF6025; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:36:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-no.shaw.ca (smtp-out-no.shaw.ca [64.59.134.9]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6155D6D861; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:36:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([96.50.22.10]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id wWnYeZK8QXziTwWnZei9HL; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 11:36:19 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=X6B81lbe c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:117 a=jvE2nwUzI0ECrNeyr98KWA==:17 a=v2DPQv5-lfwA:10 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=bv4Z-FHaAAAA:8 a=qQeljrTBNnxzgZAFw7cA:9 a=xIPd13a_dRHXZBvS:21 a=jPbXoLXlZ7r4KP9S:21 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=1V1iMJZxNW4oD5Zb:21 a=rFk3XwGbeTd1j9CN:21 a=WnoPvAod8PKmeGBM:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 a=1OByGr4bXvbdRoVEmkj7:22 Received: from [25.168.250.70] (S0106d4ca6d8943b0.gv.shawcable.net [70.66.132.207]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DDF046F7; Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:35:58 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Cy Schubert Subject: RE: svn commit: r330972 - stable/11/share/misc Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 10:36:05 -0700 To: Ian Lepore , "rgrimes@freebsd.org" CC: Justin Hibbits , Andriy Gapon , Eitan Adler , src-committers , "svn-src-all@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-stable@freebsd.org" , "svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org" Message-Id: <20180315173558.DDF046F7@spqr.komquats.com> X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfCRJRAIt+J9yCQaGtO9qqtXyvhNEC1oQZfQBIsYjtB3kf8grRN9Fx/LtW0rbVldEkPKc/reNkg6/D0ayRk0TgQkuNeFngDNkqCvT2cbpmw4n3Lic25I8 +c8DWy/YX0gAhzH7KqZRkQ+dHTdRTicyt5FfuXHVW/+V+mnmwj9i/i9nQskrkpp1VdjXKxyjhQ1WvIzy0QVXa9f6lWF2vB7tWm91bHsqZY+fIxUJiv8lMjGZ CBw08wt5QNAP0HzI5C2YEnbRld8wnV3fzh8yS1B28oIvkbjlzHUw05dnA2V5NbC6GkGEtq8cK0KdR7cxFVCIq78VlwTNVjZD0utLalsQG61vXL8G+vdeFSUa LsCPULSz22sGewwZSUd5PGW65as9LYUayfOqGUP+eV22c2IrK9hCNuInWmHH0CUl6QbGnrv3R65VrW4AnHFBuqZGhWfAtPg7oaeL6ZHCBQAjEla8sVmQAVVq igj5RERw8efbUkE9R1QUcueCUipfjMWmQiBOaQ== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: svn-src-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for all the -stable branches of the src tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2018 17:36:28 -0000 I happen to like Max's MFC emails. To visit some website on occasion to che= ck is a PITA. I've been through this many times at $JOB. Rather than receiv= e notifications in one place, my inbox, having to visit multiple websites t= o check work queues is pointless. I prefer receiving an interrupt rather th= an having to poll. Polling is inefficient use of my time. --- Sent using a tiny phone keyboard. Apologies for any typos and autocorrect. Also, this old phone only supports top post. Apologies. Cy Schubert or The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few. --- -----Original Message----- From: Ian Lepore Sent: 15/03/2018 09:20 To: rgrimes@freebsd.org Cc: Justin Hibbits; Andriy Gapon; Eitan Adler; src-committers; svn-src-all@= freebsd.org; svn-src-stable@freebsd.org; svn-src-stable-11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r330972 - stable/11/share/misc On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 09:14 -0700, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > >=20 > > On Thu, 2018-03-15 at 10:52 -0500, Justin Hibbits wrote: > > >=20 > > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 10:46 AM, Ian Lepore > > > wrote: > > > >=20 > > > >=20 > > > > I agree completely with all of this.??It bothers me how many > > > > committers > > > > have the attitude that handling MFCs is not part of being a > > > > committer. > > > Never attribute to arrogance that which can adequately be > > > explained > > > by > > > sheer laziness ;) > > >=20 > > > - Justin (guilty of marking changes as MFC after, and ignoring > > > them > > > for far too long) > > >=20 > > Laziness and procrastination I understand -- I own a lovely glass > > house > > in that neighborhood. ?I tend to put off MFCs for way too long then > > every few months have to spend a whole weekend catching up. > MFC: 1 week (by pool|self) #defaults to self if missing >=20 > There is already a very nice tracking tool for outstanding MFC's, > if we added a bit of smarts in its parser, and created a pool of > MFC commiters (Eitan seems to have started one :-)) those who > do not want to do there own MFC work could pass the hat. If you're talking about the MFC after: field in commits, I don't use it. I have about zero tolerance for being nagged by anybody about anything, and that goes double for robots nagging me with spam mail. The MFC tool that works well for me is gonzo's MFCTracker site [*] that doesn't require extra markup in the commit messages. [*]=A0https://mfc.kernelnomicon.org/6/ -- Ian