From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 30 14:00:12 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30354A413B for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic302-21.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.186.147]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05DF49ACA0 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:00:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: D_6XVYIVM1kMCTYy254nEArsdpiQlR4xqs5IvEMOM31VGd9HVYLKl6FshI8BaV9 .mUpW9CID.e4Lh3V9_83d9Hk0Ynf5d0t.HGC_Z.Bq1vBwfYfmdMRgHJ4x4b52VEpSntuMfU3TExg w1WoK8cqZXvhWR4_FcF4ROP9MQ40sj5dIBKC7MP7EQUWvA2Hk3RzIzJoVbBZSGheimC9mq8diXUL QThVhV8ZRb_i0ChcrYC6eAAX6qlVqs0RitWaaJsoFzrbGld0_5RMva0RAxmL8DpXvkNNe_rsHubv oBB3bwiSW920Nk0RUwMy2vr2nvVrYqKzVglw8KtfeSd7EZ13SA88teQkss_ekw2oPBG2alVGIPUB 5ow_qMARth8xqoM0goxp54Vv3nsoSZub.PHHZDDYl9STdRganC8Pw9dNcjcDDufZ.JO97A1WX3pD UYuH7X6prtNxUkbd2WNAjR1TFKISojV.jATs3F8rLYo0V_46fsBxQqsGXwdHrwKcK8obj_zSLXo9 4C23kPkFOqip3vmUuEngbM8Kq0gvi.SjTGtMIh_w9dPOuSZXbVVFSETRHcdy.a14JFYdUTqUfc.7 3qoIl_6l0TrcDvBZpmCqKXLbvrAFU0WJkRKfwDgjFtTZX1mONaJX2itmlGaDkYKz_ROZa3X2laVU Hk2RSRGvyfGbTDPR8_90TNuAYqk_Ug21nZqv2LqypsoOz_CsuhbTcmEhewBQ_R1NWRbIAADXZZIR UPKxMkqj73oA14f2Bc_pT11L7nxaQzOOWX0pCs9GfbQjvCF7Uq86AHWkuXw7NMvniHnljwCX.We2 AMVhpFkb9vBpzMfoAq_vgsfv4UU1s4ZH2i8_BlTww8Giqx0MPQbc8t3uRkUohxiPEL1rcAXUquJp 4QtE1taviULrdygvYwi5qFXehoAQi1zbO1TtEkxauNJ2uMVl2jqCgoWYx4v.wndwRda.Uv38bffc 3RTqWL_y7D1jai4dK_AI5aaK1lZL6SVc6XMsu9ryXzmYgMCNGhW_Ww2U00AqsFGi2QUzBdwXssQT OYlRW5M4c.v9WBF.oEsjcHqHocClkP2SBN9nHGDi68pLFfHkIzM4BMdwIhqprYlv7Dwyq7TOxd4n qjnQ9d6XFPYcU7emkp2nduBi5XrKfqhn1wJBoRknhXLEQ.yDQoHMWRFoUvdul1qSfahTgcs9FxEM DwI4d7hgc9cd.L3IamHSqQ32cl9INSeq.K2GVx3uEtMPthrzq1J3VrH2w0ysoIys1FDQ6uZKR9Yv KM8Uu88Z2s4PyHahwuXTDC9fDKQ-- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic302.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:00:09 +0000 Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:00:08 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Pathiakis To: Aryeh Friedman Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , Ralf Mardorf Message-ID: <324949962.3390321.1564495208884@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: <5ceb24c1-66ce-2603-5eed-78283d9676b7@holgerdanske.com> <23861.63968.885139.970960@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <1618173539.5511975.1563822072600@mail.yahoo.com> <1125579496.1306494.1563881223475@mail.yahoo.com> <20190723173126.2a26ee26@archlinux> <20190723204435.51c334d6@archlinux> <20190723235405.761f1663@gumby.homeunix.com> <1017844498.2766939.1564400418639@mail.yahoo.com> <699480245e5ffd26d5fb8b34efc8272a@fechner.net> <20190729210007.1be50ad8@moonstudio> <1757593433.2684240.1564453198466@mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Best hardware for a replacement desktop? MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.13991 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 05DF49ACA0 X-Spamd-Bar: +++ X-Spamd-Result: default: False [3.20 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: mta6.am0.yahoodns.net]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36646, ipnet:66.163.184.0/21, country:US]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com.dwl.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.11)[0.105,0]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.97)[0.971,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(1.00)[0.998,0]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[147.186.163.66.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; IP_SCORE(1.13)[ip: (3.42), ipnet: 66.163.184.0/21(1.27), asn: 36646(1.02), country: US(-0.05)] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2019 14:00:12 -0000 Ok... so now onto other points of relevancy....=C2=A0 (I believe Ralf and = I have had our say... :D ) One of the nicest, inexpensive cases I found is a screwless case made by Ro= sewill called the Challenger 3. Everything is well-laid out.=C2=A0 The PSU is on the bottom with the approp= riate filter, 3 lg, quiet fans on the front, rear, top.=C2=A0=20 The ability to put 5 3.5" drives in a side-to-side orientation via pop in r= ails on the side, two more 2.5" drives in a std front to rear orientation a= nd two 5.25" drives at the top, it's pretty useful.=C2=A0=20 The only shortcoming I find in the case is the length of the front USB cabl= e not being able to reach all the way to the lower far corner.... (if you h= ave a USB header closer than the most extreme distance from the upper front= of the case, it's really a nice work of design and if all your components = are quiet, the case is REALLY quiet.) I bought the Challenger, Challenger 2 and now Challenger 3.... the original= was a nice design and the subsequent versions have had minor improvements.= =C2=A0 I have a total of 4 in the house.... two are v2 and two are v3. One thing to remember, if you have adapter for SAS (yes, I have some) to pu= t on the drive or any other adapter, it's a tight squeeze.=C2=A0 The case o= n the 3.5" is narrow in that it accepts SATA/Molex connectors and a SATA ad= apter easily.=C2=A0 Large adapters can be a really tight squeeze.=C2=A0 YMM= V. P. PS - My new server case is a Nanoxia Deep Silence 1 v2.=C2=A0 It was one of= the v2 previous. On Tuesday, July 30, 2019, 6:27:57 AM EDT, Aryeh Friedman wrote: =20 =20 =20 On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 10:50 PM Aryeh Friedman = wrote: Item=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Price=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Comments---------= ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --------MSI B450 Tomahawk (motherboard)=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0 85=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 No complaints beyond not very= clear instructions about what screws to use for what purpose and the manua= l has the build order wrong IMO (attach everything before putting in case).= ... vmm(4) loads fine have not yet tried bhyve/vbox yet Just did a quick test of installing a fbsd 12-release instance on vbox work= s fine (with NAT'ed NIC's)... the next and final test (at this point I see = no reason why it wouldn't work unless the bhyve command line has changed si= nce 11.3) is install PetiteCloud and set up some boot time vm's on it=C2=A0= (finally got some time to update PC to handle non-Unix-like VM's so I gues= s it is time to start writting some code again ;-)) --=20 Aryeh M. 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