From owner-ctm-users@freebsd.org Mon Oct 22 20:52:32 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ctm-users@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18077FD60CD for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:52:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-vs1-xe33.google.com (mail-vs1-xe33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::e33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A5ED27328F for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:52:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-vs1-xe33.google.com with SMTP id w1so30532612vsj.8 for ; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=U++9Dttxuih7I5jqVunXWSWpoCVEp097mlCVDCo9z4U=; b=onjRkGXq6C6Vwq0qykim6PD8DlAU9Op1AJM5z7jwkJh1+kqTCUwotlnOZkVHJHkB4y rL3b1p/cBgfBwA9t43J2zEhXd7VZg/6sl+BOVQfd8h5mmWniwK7csDqY8GFoq3LKrAD3 t9geGK6ZTmMqFKzhx5OfTgMsO3iUpj/LUR7x0zQojp8dzTjPF0Z9lPF/GdjMhJdaSIQc ESTaAgTcz71KR32AhfJMKS0EwOEZhasO+555uMv2hMiImpQDzj3skxwukVgPC9kaYP8O OnZepCp9CDrqjgLfrCPyfOOl3Uhcm8XwzUj+Djw+5ekjXFTrpr4wq5JwlrUD3XE8Huji 2LKQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=U++9Dttxuih7I5jqVunXWSWpoCVEp097mlCVDCo9z4U=; b=mYOgRBCTltkOpAF3BujXNOGiAfwiIRawTNd1/0HdUlxUw0VEQO/KamnXyu02eeKZ07 rUKlXEOKxweZOSF6zHQzir+RV2MnyhXlCKWbEQFULTRR55UifHm7HKlr1E7/XXfZPqEb b7kvGzeLiUiikw46oX+lyctjI0bki+42YlqmOihmzW1kCaU5GcgCxvKTkQHYYh/ZVA59 VF+xBWBvwVjP32bXkA0pkm3JcqWiiKDc+TlxzxyzJVYqdza+007ZFWc8nDb9Bxs2FCob ozwc3xlaAIP+YZuEK2HCZ+52NuU7f5TDocZswfEjbz0CDSLY7E0Ky64+ub2ieboxN5yo rqsA== X-Gm-Message-State: ABuFfogFoZTTX/dn0LLkWmzPbMWHQzesx+uuvOurEY6GRpylU7B8HFqW qzo6JONthXM8fwWSYQ4RmAEOhy260xaf5I7CsTTzTw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACcGV62kRlpgOeFdXPOkGCjHPaB+d01Bcumms3XYpaD5mCfdM5lVi3T85dzuqV/qusCODJ8L4kL4d+WqUAO10Uf3y9g= X-Received: by 2002:a67:f757:: with SMTP id w23mr19705491vso.76.1540241550965; Mon, 22 Oct 2018 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7288.1540239007@critter.freebsd.dk> <201810222038.w9MKcP4L013243@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <201810222038.w9MKcP4L013243@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 14:52:19 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: ctm(1) deprecation in the FreeBSD base system? To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Ed Maste , FreeBSD Current , ctm-users@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: ctm-users@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: CTM User discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 20:52:32 -0000 On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 2:40 PM Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > -------- > > In message <201810221957.w9MJvdXx012868@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net>, > "Rodney W. Gri > > mes" writes: > > > > >I do not know that other than I do know that I have seen > > >one data point in the last 14 days of a user who was infact > > >using ctm though I can not associate a username/email address > > >with that memory. > > > > > >A search of the last 30 days of @freebsd.org public mail > > >may yield a hit. > > > > I think Julian Stacy is still running CTM generation ? > > Ah, yes, that brought back enough brain cells, > confirmed that is who I saw with ctm usage. > Do we need it in base? Or can we make it a port? Warner