From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 3 10: 9: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.vta.com (vta.com [208.199.187.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398EF37B405 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 10:09:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mobile@vta.com) Received: (from mobile@localhost) by mailhub.vta.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA42732 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:47:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mobile@vta.com) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 11:47:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Mobile Computer Message-Id: <200107031547.LAA42732@mailhub.vta.com> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nokia 8210 (6190!) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >On Sun, 1 Jul 2001 10:39:45 +0100, Scott Mitchell > appears to have said: >As for the phones, most of the high-end Nokias, and handsets from other >manufacturers, emulate a standard modem, so while you need a special cable >to plug into the phone, you don't need gNokii or anything else to make use >of it -- it looks just like any other serial port device. Most of these >handsets will also talk IrDA. My Nokia 7110 is an example of such a >handset. Older models, like the 5110, don't have the modem emulation and >need special software to use them for data connections. > >If you're going to be using mobile data a lot, I'd definitely recommend a >higher-end handset (Nokia 6xxx or 7xxx, or one of the Ericsson Rxxx). That >should 'just work' with any device with a serial or IrDA port. > Your assertion about 'just working' with a serial port, absent gNokii: I just tried this on a 4.2-RELEASE machine, with a brand new Nokia 6190 without success. Am I missing something obvious? Could support for this behavior and these phones ( as serial port connected modem devices ) actually be part of a ( later ) sio (4) driver? For reference, the phone does appear to work as expected with Nokia's bundled software and /* dreaded */ W98. I have plans to try out gNokii later this afternoon. It would be great if this works under any FreeBSD related circumstance, I am trying to replace a Mitsubishi PCMCIA GSM data modem / phone combo which has an unknown hardware incompatibility with my (used to be) new Toshiba 1695 CDT. Despite bios, bios setting, kernel config, kernel build, #ifdef SANITY_TEST_ONLY /* dreaded */ W95, W98, W2000, NT installations, #endif freeBSD releases from 2.2.7 through 4.2, and literally adding printf to virtually every line of code in the 4.2-RELEASE serial driver, this Mitsubishi card freezes the 1695 CDT solid as soon as sioopen() returns. We're talking unplug from the wall, remove the battery, start over. ( This machine also has a 'toy' Phoenix bios with way too few knobs to suit me. I wanted to try killing PNP, I can't.) On a reboot after the freeze, the card's CIS tuples cannot be read by this machine. Another machine ( next paragraph ) immediately reads the card just fine. This just plain has to be a hardware incompatibility problem. But oddly, this PCMCIA card still works like a champ with my stone-aged Toshiba 2505CDS, running 2.2.7-PAO, still, after all this time. I'm just weary of traveling with two laptops. This is a great reference thread, keep going, thanks for any information. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy Boyd Software -- Hardware -- IP Network -- Digital Imaging -- Film -- Television VTA INC. // VTA Technologies // Steadifilm Corporation Atlanta, Georgia mobile@vta.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message