From owner-freebsd-mips@freebsd.org Sun Dec 31 00:34:49 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-mips@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A621EB5524 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:34:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-it0-x229.google.com (mail-it0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4001:c0b::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D136575939 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:34:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-it0-x229.google.com with SMTP id b5so34184131itc.3 for ; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:34:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=7LCy3dKR+UC1L35XMRws9UqtE4JvzdBjd9vI5vMc0lU=; b=po7WUDP4Eftf64WNaXaBO5RHyr87V4Q80UQlrDB/YpUTb0B0pibB6aUj2O0YZQdCal kr8IlEQsiXPrlUSfHfXyGRbu5NliZ4oa20q8d7aP5hHZzQ4dirbI+ki62z1VGwQC442e gxmDZk6+ZBVyGTQVypJWV08TLttOenRaVSZdYui2EhApLspB5bJMrQxCjlH9jpMOvTBY 8WZIOJXprs9TGwQOjQlKPmmUCLATSpj95PvQ8x9YCyPPCs9JZWyviJSSd/+mcqHqrGYt XUFuQOjYAn08b9R95LYZioEZkSVEowIWtjTt/Q9vU8kN19j3JcuwyHr1LaTSe6ZKqwrF 3o0w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7LCy3dKR+UC1L35XMRws9UqtE4JvzdBjd9vI5vMc0lU=; b=n7XpivK99jvWxv1e8QbSIwIPyizypSEAcvV/eH4H2TmW1YY7S+m3hOAFxyPuZVO4rj tv+fLnV/MOZ6r/smBXkoEh2eEls3a+H7xDCicwLDg+5KDfVZYD3F1bSDV2dGJp2R9jU9 HTKTgdtXHQJjoPSieu+JrHHWzXVZYX4MWLklLGUBnw3xR5VQRyqqeBq9iyOvMep0EtgY Acks0fv923Eg9q7TlYi1f12dpX/2hUOiS32QOS4HsrnQQ9dtFVtiSGGjuBf12nnf3Akd L8PJn2gXYEMYyzMPM+Y+5i5jfuMEXRv0H7s2W0r5zQ01GouXho70YcXCVczANRCus/Tg cFJA== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mKr97ilNWW3E2YNWd2k4ZCYNXkzdA7wk/ZzAx0dG0WhUlaZsFUs M1BqgxERThrAANyItfher0xMKPgCLQ3Tr6wmqpiL/w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBovLkI1fYEi2eT5ePutNBe8pPB0mcA8qFBH5dMTQwwt8j/ln4ouXnyf9Zud87XG1WIBURNGxukM2EU+PyRXy7dI= X-Received: by 10.36.77.143 with SMTP id l137mr51173337itb.50.1514680488144; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:34:48 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: wlosh@bsdimp.com Received: by 10.79.108.204 with HTTP; Sat, 30 Dec 2017 16:34:47 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2603:300b:6:5100:1052:acc7:f9de:2b6d] In-Reply-To: <201712310028.vBV0SWFO078434@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> References: <201712310028.vBV0SWFO078434@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> From: Warner Losh Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2017 17:34:47 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: KiRh1mix1LK1t3KgsbP6Vou9dmY Message-ID: Subject: Re: Minor MIPS tree pruning To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Michael Zhilin , Emmanuel Vadot , "freebsd-embedded@freebsd.org" , Robert Watson , "freebsd-mips@freebsd.org" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-mips@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to MIPS List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 00:34:49 -0000 On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:28 PM, Rodney W. Grimes < freebsd-rwg@pdx.rh.cn85.dnsmgr.net> wrote: > > Can you give me pointers to these boards for adm5120 and IDT? When last I > > tried to get them 5 years ago they were hard to come by and generally > came > > with no more than 32M or 64M of memory. > > > > mips/rt305x has been subsumed by mips/mediatek, so will be deleted w/o > loss > > of functionality. > > Please go back and read very carefully what the person said about > this. It was PLANNED to subsume rt305x into mediatek, but it has > NOT been done yet. At least that is how I read the persons > comments. That's not how I read it. I read it as "this is what we planned, and we've arrived." However, out of an abundance of caution, I sent an email asking for confirmation. Code inspection certainly suggests that my interpretation is correct. Warner > > > I'm curious what benefit sibyte has apart from broadcom? It seems to > > support a super old broadcom chip that's way obsolete that has a bunch of > > errata that need workarounds that aren't present in newer chips. What am > I > > missing? > > > > Warner > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Michael Zhilin > wrote: > > > > > Hi Warner, > > > > > > If I can give my twopence worth, I think that adm5120 & idt are to be > kept > > > for a while, there are few vintage boards (for instance, Mikrotik from > > > Latvia) with good configuration (plenty of flash and RAM), sibyte is > to be > > > part of broadcom and also kept for a while. > > > rt305x is still very popular and cheap (for instance, "3g router" with > > > RT5350 from AliExpress, but I have one, not yet tested). > > > > > > And I don't know what is alchemy. :) > > > > > > Thank you! > > > P.S. Wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and your > family. > > > > > > On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > >> I'd like to propose that we eliminate support for the following > before the > > >> FreeBSD 12 branch. > > >> > > >> adm5120 (most boards don't have enough memory, very old) > > >> alchemy (the au1xxxx port never really was finished, and boards lack > > >> memory, very old) > > >> idt (only a few boards worked, most are long obsolete) > > >> rt305x (raylink kit is now out dated, at least I think so) > > >> sibyte (long obsolete, hard to get hardware) > > >> > > >> I thought I'd post a heads up here before I proposed this list to > arch@. > > >> > > >> We have enough exemplars these days we don't need to keep these older > > >> ports > > >> around as examples anymore, and I have my doubts if we even work on > these > > >> boards anymore. > > >> > > >> If I'm wrong about these being old, or that FreeBSD is no longer > running > > >> on > > >> them, please let me know. Thanks! > > >> > > >> Warner > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > >> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@ > freebsd.org" > > >> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-mips@freebsd.org mailing list > > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-mips > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-mips-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > > > -- > Rod Grimes > rgrimes@freebsd.org >